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Ruling on deportation mystifies abortion foes (unborn child US citizen with Const. rights-what?)
The Kansas City Star ^
| 6-6-04
| DONALD BRADLEY
Posted on 06/07/2004 1:44:14 PM PDT by cpforlife.org
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More confirmation that we live in a crazy world.
I'm against abortion, personally, but I feel like it's a woman's choice EQUALS I'm against the Nazi Holocaust, personally, but I feel like it's Hitler's choice,
To: cpforlife.org; Coleus
Crazy or not....
Forget the illegal immigrant issue.
Wasn't the unborn just declared a legal citizen?
Hence, legally defining abortion as murder? By the Judge?
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posted on
06/07/2004 1:48:13 PM PDT
by
Calpernia
(When you bite the hand that feeds you, you eventually run out of food.)
To: MHGinTN; Coleus; nickcarraway; Mr. Silverback; Canticle_of_Deborah; TenthAmendmentChampion; ...
Pro-Abortion Federal Judge: Unborn Is American Citizen with Constitutional Rights.
This a no-joking PING
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Please let me know if you want on or off my Pro-Life Ping List.
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posted on
06/07/2004 1:48:45 PM PDT
by
cpforlife.org
(The Missing Key of the Pro-Life Movement is at www.CpForLife.org)
To: cpforlife.org
Many people hide behind "I'm against abortion personally." But if they are against it, why are they against it? Essentially, they are saying that a mother has a right to murder her own child. I will never understand that position. It is a souless and gutless position.
To: cpforlife.org
Is this on DU anywhere? I would love to see their reaction to a fetus being ruled a citizen, entitled to all constitutional rights.
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posted on
06/07/2004 1:50:02 PM PDT
by
Phantom Lord
(Distributor of Pain, Your Loss Becomes My Gain)
To: NRA2BFree
Pure, undiluted insanity.
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posted on
06/07/2004 1:50:14 PM PDT
by
Mr. Mojo
To: cpforlife.org
"Last year he blocked a Missouri law that required a 24-hour waiting period before someone could get an abortion."
You know, something just hit me. He ruled that waiting periods for abortions somehow goes against law and the "right" of a woman to have an abortion, a right which by the way is not mentioned in the Constitution. Yet, there appears to be no problem with making people waiting days (and sometimes weeks) to buy handguns, a right which is specifically mentioned in the Constitution. Absolutely amazing.
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posted on
06/07/2004 1:50:36 PM PDT
by
SirAllen
("Republicans think every day is July 4th. Democrats think every day is April 15th." (RWR))
To: mhking
my nominee for "Most Absurdly Twisted Judicial Flip-Flop (of the week, so far)"
JustDamn! ping
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posted on
06/07/2004 1:51:08 PM PDT
by
King Prout
(the difference between "trained intellect" and "indoctrinated intellectual" is an Abyssal gulf)
To: cpforlife.org
This judge is weird. Without looking it up, I'm almost sure that a non-citizen's baby has to be born in this country to automatically be a citizen. Otherwise, someone who conceived their child here, then went home and had the baby, would still be able to claim that the baby was a citizen.
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posted on
06/07/2004 1:53:11 PM PDT
by
ScottFromSpokane
(Re-elect President Bush: http://spokanegop.org/bush.html)
To: Calpernia; 2ndMostConservativeBrdMember; afraidfortherepublic; Alas; al_c; american colleen; ...
Wasn't the unborn just declared a legal citizen? >>>
Great point!
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posted on
06/07/2004 1:53:51 PM PDT
by
Coleus
(Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, algae)
To: cpforlife.org
That reading of the Constitution goes against the plain wording of the Constitution itself.The Constitution does not define life but clearly says that people born in the United States are citizens. It does not say that people conceived in the United States or carried in their mothers' bellies into the United States are citizens. I do not argue that, in this circumstance the mother should have been deported , but surely other reasons could have been found that do not do violence to the Constitution and neither would I think the mother or baby has been done a great wrong if she is deported.
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posted on
06/07/2004 1:56:42 PM PDT
by
arthurus
(Better to fight them over THERE than over HERE.)
To: Phantom Lord
This ruling is great. Pretty soon, someone finally will decide that one of the rights of the unborn "citizen" is the right not to be "aborted," or killed by a doctor at the behest of the mother. I know of no American citizen who lacks such protection.
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posted on
06/07/2004 1:56:48 PM PDT
by
dufekin
(John F. Kerry. Irrational, improvident, backward, seditious.)
To: Calpernia
Unfortunately liberals are quite capable of working both sides of a contradiction.
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posted on
06/07/2004 1:57:48 PM PDT
by
arthurus
(Better to fight them over THERE than over HERE.)
To: Coleus
If the unborn are legal citizens doesn't that mean they covered under the law of due process? I love it. I hope some savvy lawyer uses this ruling to overturn Roe vs Wade.
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posted on
06/07/2004 1:58:25 PM PDT
by
LauraJean
(Fukai please pass the squid sauce)
To: Calpernia; Coleus; MHGinTN; All
I suppose this lunatic will use Kerry speak and say: Sure, the unborn are US citizens with Constitutional rights... BUUUT... Simon says momma is bigger and more important and her rights are that she can "terminate her pregnancy" for any reason--or no reason at all...if she wants to. Ta-daaa. Being a Judge is so much fun! Yippee!
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posted on
06/07/2004 1:59:33 PM PDT
by
cpforlife.org
(The Missing Key of the Pro-Life Movement is at www.CpForLife.org)
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posted on
06/07/2004 2:00:35 PM PDT
by
Coleus
(Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, algae)
To: cpforlife.org
A fetus is a human being and worthy of constitutional protection. I'll buy that.
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posted on
06/07/2004 2:01:29 PM PDT
by
Saundra Duffy
(Save Terri Schiavo!!!)
To: cpforlife.org
To: cpforlife.org
How come a woman has the right to decide to kill her child and I dont have the right to decide whether or not I wear a seat belt?
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posted on
06/07/2004 2:02:11 PM PDT
by
sgtbono2002
(I aint wrong, I aint sorry , and I am probably going to do it again.)
To: cpforlife.org
bump for legal opinion, if the baby has standing under the constitution, doesn't that mean it is legal to use deadly force to protect him or her?
Opinions from lawers please.
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