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Ruling on deportation mystifies abortion foes (unborn child US citizen with Const. rights-what?)
The Kansas City Star ^ | 6-6-04 | DONALD BRADLEY

Posted on 06/07/2004 1:44:14 PM PDT by cpforlife.org

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More confirmation that we live in a crazy world.

“I'm against abortion, personally, but I feel like it's a woman's choice” EQUALS “I'm against the Nazi Holocaust, personally, but I feel like it's Hitler's choice,”

1 posted on 06/07/2004 1:44:15 PM PDT by cpforlife.org
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To: cpforlife.org; Coleus

Crazy or not....

Forget the illegal immigrant issue.

Wasn't the unborn just declared a legal citizen?

Hence, legally defining abortion as murder? By the Judge?


2 posted on 06/07/2004 1:48:13 PM PDT by Calpernia (When you bite the hand that feeds you, you eventually run out of food.)
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To: MHGinTN; Coleus; nickcarraway; Mr. Silverback; Canticle_of_Deborah; TenthAmendmentChampion; ...
Pro-Abortion Federal Judge: Unborn Is American Citizen with Constitutional Rights.

This a no-joking PING

Please let me know if you want on or off my Pro-Life Ping List.

3 posted on 06/07/2004 1:48:45 PM PDT by cpforlife.org (The Missing Key of the Pro-Life Movement is at www.CpForLife.org)
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To: cpforlife.org

Many people hide behind "I'm against abortion personally." But if they are against it, why are they against it? Essentially, they are saying that a mother has a right to murder her own child. I will never understand that position. It is a souless and gutless position.


4 posted on 06/07/2004 1:49:51 PM PDT by King Black Robe
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To: cpforlife.org

Is this on DU anywhere? I would love to see their reaction to a fetus being ruled a citizen, entitled to all constitutional rights.


5 posted on 06/07/2004 1:50:02 PM PDT by Phantom Lord (Distributor of Pain, Your Loss Becomes My Gain)
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To: NRA2BFree

Pure, undiluted insanity.


6 posted on 06/07/2004 1:50:14 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: cpforlife.org

"Last year he blocked a Missouri law that required a 24-hour waiting period before someone could get an abortion."

You know, something just hit me. He ruled that waiting periods for abortions somehow goes against law and the "right" of a woman to have an abortion, a right which by the way is not mentioned in the Constitution. Yet, there appears to be no problem with making people waiting days (and sometimes weeks) to buy handguns, a right which is specifically mentioned in the Constitution. Absolutely amazing.


7 posted on 06/07/2004 1:50:36 PM PDT by SirAllen ("Republicans think every day is July 4th. Democrats think every day is April 15th." (RWR))
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To: mhking

my nominee for "Most Absurdly Twisted Judicial Flip-Flop (of the week, so far)"
JustDamn! ping


8 posted on 06/07/2004 1:51:08 PM PDT by King Prout (the difference between "trained intellect" and "indoctrinated intellectual" is an Abyssal gulf)
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This judge is weird. Without looking it up, I'm almost sure that a non-citizen's baby has to be born in this country to automatically be a citizen. Otherwise, someone who conceived their child here, then went home and had the baby, would still be able to claim that the baby was a citizen.
9 posted on 06/07/2004 1:53:11 PM PDT by ScottFromSpokane (Re-elect President Bush: http://spokanegop.org/bush.html)
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To: Calpernia; 2ndMostConservativeBrdMember; afraidfortherepublic; Alas; al_c; american colleen; ...

Wasn't the unborn just declared a legal citizen? >>>

Great point!


10 posted on 06/07/2004 1:53:51 PM PDT by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, algae)
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To: cpforlife.org

That reading of the Constitution goes against the plain wording of the Constitution itself.The Constitution does not define life but clearly says that people born in the United States are citizens. It does not say that people conceived in the United States or carried in their mothers' bellies into the United States are citizens. I do not argue that, in this circumstance the mother should have been deported , but surely other reasons could have been found that do not do violence to the Constitution and neither would I think the mother or baby has been done a great wrong if she is deported.


11 posted on 06/07/2004 1:56:42 PM PDT by arthurus (Better to fight them over THERE than over HERE.)
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This ruling is great. Pretty soon, someone finally will decide that one of the rights of the unborn "citizen" is the right not to be "aborted," or killed by a doctor at the behest of the mother. I know of no American citizen who lacks such protection.


12 posted on 06/07/2004 1:56:48 PM PDT by dufekin (John F. Kerry. Irrational, improvident, backward, seditious.)
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To: Calpernia

Unfortunately liberals are quite capable of working both sides of a contradiction.


13 posted on 06/07/2004 1:57:48 PM PDT by arthurus (Better to fight them over THERE than over HERE.)
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To: Coleus

If the unborn are legal citizens doesn't that mean they covered under the law of due process? I love it. I hope some savvy lawyer uses this ruling to overturn Roe vs Wade.


14 posted on 06/07/2004 1:58:25 PM PDT by LauraJean (Fukai please pass the squid sauce)
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To: Calpernia; Coleus; MHGinTN; All
I suppose this lunatic will use Kerry speak and say: Sure, the unborn are US citizens with Constitutional rights... BUUUT... Simon says momma is bigger and more important and her rights are that she can "terminate her pregnancy" for any reason--or no reason at all...if she wants to. Ta-daaa. Being a Judge is so much fun! Yippee!
15 posted on 06/07/2004 1:59:33 PM PDT by cpforlife.org (The Missing Key of the Pro-Life Movement is at www.CpForLife.org)
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The law is a farce, judges are fools

Missouri Judge Blocks Deportation of Illegal Immigrant

Unborn child now factor in deportation

Judge cites "Laci and Conner's Law" to keep woman in the US

16 posted on 06/07/2004 2:00:35 PM PDT by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, algae)
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A fetus is a human being and worthy of constitutional protection.

I'll buy that.

17 posted on 06/07/2004 2:01:29 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy (Save Terri Schiavo!!!)
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To: cpforlife.org

BUMP


18 posted on 06/07/2004 2:02:09 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: cpforlife.org

How come a woman has the right to decide to kill her child and I dont have the right to decide whether or not I wear a seat belt?


19 posted on 06/07/2004 2:02:11 PM PDT by sgtbono2002 (I aint wrong, I aint sorry , and I am probably going to do it again.)
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To: cpforlife.org
bump for legal opinion, if the baby has standing under the constitution, doesn't that mean it is legal to use deadly force to protect him or her?

Opinions from lawers please.

20 posted on 06/07/2004 2:02:43 PM PDT by newsgatherer
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