[Poohbah]

My point is that we have propellant that gets it up to speed amazingly fast.

Which is a relative term to a main gun round, which is at V_max when it leaves the muzzle.

Again, the ranges I've seen quoted on rocket-propelled KE rounds relegates them to the vanishing open battlefield.

[Jeff Head]

Poohbah, the point is, there are HV rounds that are rocket propelled that get it up to speed fast enough to be lethal to an Abrams, and they can do it on the battlefield...close enough in to make them effective.

If we have them opertional (and we do) then it is a safe bet with this type of technology that our adversaries are close...although probably not giving it to the Islamos yet. For most of the discussion you were focused on the wrong munition (30mm DU), and arguing, proving, foot-in-mouthing, regarding that as opposed to speaking to the technology I was discussing.

In addition, contrary to what you said earlier, the Kornet has plenty of minimum range capability to be a threat in the urban environment...100M. It has been reported that the Iraqis had some of these missiles and we have lost some tanks. They are a possibility.

The RPG-7, as you stated, is also a good possibility...and I have not discounted that or denied it. Particularly with the TA rounds.

'nuff said...time to stop beating a dead horse...at this point I'll just wait for the official report. Just refer back to this clause/paragraph for any further discussion on these points.