Texts of Bush's and Pope's Remarks

President Bush: Your Holiness, thank you very much for receiving Laura and me, and our delegation. I bring greetings from our country, where you are respected, admired and greatly loved.

I also bring a message from my government that says to you, sir, we will work for human liberty and human dignity, in order to spread peace and compassion; that we appreciate the strong symbol of freedom that you have stood for, and we recognize the power of freedom to change societies and to change the world.

And so, sir, we're honored to be here. Perhaps the best way I can express my country's gratitude to you, and our respect to you, is to present to you the Medal of Freedom from America. And if you might allow, I'd like to read the citation attached to that honor:

"A devoted servant of God, His Holiness Pope John Paul II has championed the cause of the poor, the weak, the hungry, and the outcast. He has defended the unique dignity of every life, and the goodness of all life. Through his faith and moral conviction, he has given courage to others to be not afraid in overcoming injustice and oppression. His principled stand for peace and freedom has inspired millions and helped to topple communism and tyranny. The United States honors this son of Poland who became the Bishop of Rome and a hero of our time."

And so, on behalf of the American people, Your Holiness, I would be honored if you would accept our Medal of Freedom.

Pope John Paul II: I am very grateful, Mr. President, for this thoughtful gesture. May the desire for freedom, peace, a more humane world symbolized by this medal inspire men and women of goodwill in every time and place.

Here is the text of remarks made by Pope John Paul II to President Bush at the Vatican. The text was provided by the Vatican.

Mr. President, I offer a warm welcome to you and to Mrs. Bush, and to the distinguished delegation accompanying you. I also extend a cordial and affectionate greeting to all the people of the United States whom you represent. I thank you for wishing to meet with me again, in spite of the difficulties presented by your own many commitments during this present visit to Europe and Italy, and by my own departure tomorrow morning for a meeting with young people in Switzerland.

You are visiting Italy to commemorate the 60th anniversary of the liberation of Rome and to honor the memory of the many American soldiers who gave their lives for their country and for the freedom of the peoples of Europe. I join you in recalling the sacrifice of those valiant dead and in asking the Lord that the mistakes of the past, which gave rise to appalling tragedies, may never again be repeated. Today I too think back with great emotion on the many Polish soldiers who died for the freedom of Europe.

Mr. President, your visit to Rome takes place at a moment of great concern for the continuing situation of grave unrest in the Middle East, both in Iraq and in the Holy Land. You are very familiar with the unequivocal position of the Holy See in this regard, expressed in numerous documents, through direct and indirect contacts, and in the many diplomatic efforts which have been made since you visited me, first at Castelgandolfo on 23 July 2001, and again in this Apostolic Palace on 28 May 2002.

It is the evident desire of everyone that this situation now be normalized as quickly as possible with the active participation of the international community and, in particular, the United Nations organization, in order to ensure a speedy return of Iraq's sovereignty, in conditions of security for all its people. The recent appointment of a head of state in Iraq and the formation of an interim Iraqi government are an encouraging step toward the attainment of this goal. May a similar hope for peace also be rekindled in the Holy Land and lead to new negotiations, dictated by a sincere and determined commitment to dialogue, between the government of Israel and the Palestinian Authority.

The threat of international terrorism remains a source of constant concern. It has seriously affected normal and peaceful relations between states and peoples since the tragic date of 11 September 2001, which I have not hesitated to call "a dark day in the history of humanity". In the past few weeks other deplorable events have come to light which have troubled the civic and religious conscience of all, and made more difficult a serene and resolute commitment to shared human values: in the absence of such a commitment neither war nor terrorism will ever be overcome. May God grant strength and success to all those who do not cease to hope and work for understanding between peoples, in respect for the security and rights of all nations and of every man and woman.

At the same time, Mr. President, I take this opportunity to acknowledge the great commitment of your government and of your nations numerous humanitarian agencies, particularly those of Catholic inspiration, to overcoming the increasingly intolerable conditions in various African countries, where the suffering caused by fratricidal conflicts, pandemic illnesses and a degrading poverty can no longer be overlooked. I also continue to follow with great appreciation your commitment to the promotion of moral values in American society, particularly with regard to respect for life and the family.

A fuller and deeper understanding between the United States of America and Europe will surely play a decisive role in resolving the great problems which I have mentioned, as well as so many others confronted by humanity today. May your visit, Mr. President, give new and powerful impetus to such cooperation. Mr. President, as you carry out your lofty mission of service to your nation and to world peace, I assure you of my prayers and cordially invoke upon you God's blessings of wisdom, strength and peace. May God bestow peace and freedom upon all mankind!

Here's the text of the discussion to cut through some of the rhetoric floating around. After President Bush gave the Presidential Medal of Freedom to the Pope, I show the quote below extracted from the text above.

SO this is the reason the press would not let us hear the Holy Father speak. He was not "castigating" the President for Iraq, but rather the Pope was offering his hopes, and prayers, for peace - and he followed it with PRAISE for the President, and America.

Once again, this illustrates free thinker's maxim: we must find the truth ourselves, for the press will not give it to us willingly...

"It is the evident desire of everyone that this situation now be normalized as quickly as possible with the active participation of the international community and, in particular, the United Nations organization, in order to ensure a speedy return of Iraq's sovereignty,..."

I see a lot wrong with that statement and two other statements that he made, especially under the circumstance. ...not to mention quite a few past statements from the same point of view.

This is not to generally complain about the Catholic Church but to point out that some things need to be honestly regarded without omissions and changed.

And BTW, will the most likely next pope yet be the man in Brazil?

Prepare for the worst, and try to do our best.

Thank you for posting this. I can't believe how the MSM has twisted this visit. I watched the whole thing on Fox yesterday AM, and although I could not understand most of what the Pope was saying, I was quite sure that he was not "scolding" the President, as the MSM would have us believe. On the contrary, he DID scold the American Bishops later in the day for not showing leadership to the American people on the subject of abortion, stem cell research, cloning, homosexual marriage, and euthanasia.

Thanks for the thanks. I do criticize statements made by John Paul and others in the Vatican. But at the same time, as you point out, it is wrong for any publications to lie by exaggerating and sensationalizing what happened.

As much as I disagree feminist and anti-American statements he's made, by John Paul's disposition of calm and thoughfulness, it's very doubtful that he used any scolding or "castigating" President Bush. I disagree with the criticisms in his statement, but they were only that--softly worded criticisms.

Times ahead might get tougher, although I hope that doesn't happen. Who will be the next Pope?

In any case, American, Indian, various Asian people--all Catholic people can continue to be Catholic, even if worst comes to worst.

I am not Catholic but have reverted to the Protestant faith of my earlier ancestors. But my great-aunt Sister Mary once said to my Baptist mother (and without being ecumenical at all), "If you can be a good Baptist, you could be a good Catholic." Jesus once said, "No man is good..."

But we should try, no?

BTW, my tagline has to do with so much "French" this and "French" that, because it blinds us to sentiment that is happening all over Europe. The tagline is derived from comments of many US soldiers in WWII (and with regards to D-Day). It's true that the French leadership and too many of its constituents are anti-American. But I've been debating with a British Conservative, recently--one of many who are nearly all anti-American while echoing the fascisms of their left. ...this, though most of my ancient genetic heritage is English, Nordic, and so forth. It's even worse in Germany. Most Europeans, from Norway to Spain, have been turned against us over the decades, because we neglected our duty of first defending our nation with convincing, true speech to the rest of the world (to counter commie speech). Such effort to speak (public affairs) is a necessary part of defense.

There is much writing and publishing to do.

Oops. ...try the second paragraph again.

As much as I disagree with some feminist and anti-American statements he's made, by John Paul's disposition of calm and thoughfulness, it's very doubtful that he used any scolding or "castigating" tone toward President Bush. I disagree with the criticisms in his statement, but they were only that--softly spoken criticisms.

As you know, BTW, John Paul is very aged, and we must consider the sources of the information he receives on international politics. While PM Berlusconi is a good friend, Italy is not like the USA regarding the War on Terror. It's not the worst ally as far as it's population's sentiments go, but it's not the best (~ 2/3 pro-American). And there's the rest of Europe.

We may resent the information and intentions behind that info that's being issued to him very much.

I also wonder where the UK will go in relations with us after it spits PM Blair (Labour, i.e., socialist) out of office for opposing most of the British population regarding the War on Terror.

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