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Judaism growing among black Americans
UPI via Interest!Alert ^ | June 4, 2K4 | UPI

Posted on 06/05/2004 12:13:36 AM PDT by rdb3

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To: rdb3

It's amazing how blacks want to adopt Islam, Judaism, everything except the one Savior who died and rose for them.


21 posted on 06/05/2004 4:50:35 AM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of news.)
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To: LS
It's amazing how blacks want to adopt Islam, Judaism, everything except the one Savior who died and rose for them.

Slow your roll. You can include those of your own house in your equation.


THREE the hard way.

22 posted on 06/05/2004 4:59:46 AM PDT by rdb3 ($710.96... The price of freedom.)
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To: rdb3

Um, the article was about BLACKS. Now if the article was about orphan Eskimos, I would have said that. Pay attention to the headlines.


23 posted on 06/05/2004 5:03:18 AM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of news.)
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To: LS
Seeing as how I am the one who posted the thread, I've paid attention to the headline.

As I said, you can include those of your own house in your equation. Singling us out for what really is a universal calling is less than kosher (no pun intended).

In other words, calling out black people for something that your own kind is equally failing to do is hypocritical. Talking about Christ is universal, and can in no way be whittled down to a single race. That doesn't work.


THREE the hard way.

24 posted on 06/05/2004 5:13:44 AM PDT by rdb3 ($710.96... The price of freedom.)
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To: LS
It's amazing how blacks want to adopt Islam, Judaism, everything except the one Savior who died and rose for them.

The majority of the black people I know are practicing Christians, and the majority of the black churches around here seem to stay much busier than the mainstream or white churches do.

Islam was a fad in this area for a while, but it seems to have largely either died or gone quiet, not sure which, since 9/11.

25 posted on 06/05/2004 5:16:02 AM PDT by Amelia
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To: rdb3

Works for me. Anyone who wants to join our flock, IMO, is welcome. Judaism is a joyous, life-affirming religion. And the food is good. :)


26 posted on 06/05/2004 6:52:37 AM PDT by veronica (Sen. Robert Bryd has seen more hoods than Iraqi prisoners ever wore....)
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To: radiohead
referring to black people who convert to Judaism.

Or Ethiopian immigrants who have no need to convert as their pedigree goes all the way back.

27 posted on 06/05/2004 8:27:45 AM PDT by arthurus (Better to fight them over THERE than over HERE.)
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To: Luis Gonzalez

I remember reading Sammy Davis Jr's bio when it came out. I thought his motivation for converting to Judaism resulted more from his desire to fit in with the entertainment establishment, than from ideology. Ditto for his marriage to a Caucasian wife, who he later dumped when it became politically incorrect for Blacks to marry white--and he then married a Black woman.


28 posted on 06/05/2004 9:05:22 AM PDT by Ciexyz ("FR, best viewed with a budgie on hand")
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To: rdb3
My eldest child's first baby sitter was an American black jewish woman who also kept a kosher house. She wasn't ethiopian, and explained her family and her husbands had always been jewish. Her ancestral family had come to America as slaves and had been forced to practice christianity, but always maintained their jewish traditions in secret as well.
I have to say I'd never heard such a story before, but her story was so similar to other jewish experiences of having to hide their religious practices. It certainly speaks of the strength of the jewish cultural life.
29 posted on 06/05/2004 9:38:46 AM PDT by Katya
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To: Luis Gonzalez

Nel Carter also... who used to appear on Israeli Sesame Street and also has a hewbrew alef-bet video tape for children.


30 posted on 06/05/2004 10:01:15 AM PDT by cyborg
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To: rdb3
Also, what is "black Judaism"? Judaism is Judaism, right?

Yeah - kinda like "African-American". They're still Americans but think the hyphen entitles them to some sort of extra consideration or respect. I'll wait for the hyphen on this one.

31 posted on 06/05/2004 10:06:10 AM PDT by TomServo ("Matthew 6:19 at the half... heh heh, little preacher joke.")
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To: rdb3
Your question about my comment:>>What are you talking about?

Your original comment:>Also, what is "black Judaism"? Judaism is Judaism, right?

Let me clarify - I believe your comment is non-intuitive in as much as you believe race never factors into religion. I am assuming you are black and not Jewish. As a counter-example, why do some Christian churches seem to self-segregate into black and white in this country (for example, AME)? I don't know, myself. Yes, I guess in a utopian society things might not break down this way. I am sorry if I hit a raw nerve of yours.

32 posted on 06/05/2004 10:26:50 AM PDT by searchandrecovery (Socialist America - diseased and dysfunctional.)
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To: rdb3
...your own kind...

Making broad generalities about any race (in this case singling-out white people) is offensive to me. In the future, please don't do this.

33 posted on 06/05/2004 10:29:37 AM PDT by searchandrecovery (Socialist America - diseased and dysfunctional.)
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To: rdb3

The Carribean members of the synagogue are probably a mixture of Afro-Carribean and Sephardic, who have retained Jewish traditions. Although marranos came with the Portugese and Spanish colonists, Sephardic Jews who had no worries about hiding their faith came with the English and Dutch.


34 posted on 06/05/2004 10:37:04 AM PDT by RightWingAtheist
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To: cyborg
Don't forget Yaphet Kotto!


35 posted on 06/05/2004 10:39:50 AM PDT by RightWingAtheist
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To: rdb3
Will Rangel, Jackson, Mfume et al demand reparations for the Holocaust?
36 posted on 06/05/2004 10:46:19 AM PDT by Thom Pain (Quisling - from Vidkun Quisling (1887-1945), a synonym for "traitor")
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To: Thom Pain
Ha. Ha. Ha.


THREE the hard way.

37 posted on 06/05/2004 10:49:00 AM PDT by rdb3 ($710.96... The price of freedom.)
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To: rdb3
You might find the following links interesting. The impression the article leaves that this is a recent trend of blacks converting to Judiasm is a bit misleading.

The movement goes back about a century, and I’ve seen it origins described as being both in blacks “rediscovering” their Hebraic roots and the meaning of of previously unknown customs, and in blacks rejecting Christianity as the religion of slavery.

You’ll note in the article that their acceptance by the Jewish community is sometimes problematical. I believe the Congregation mentioned here is pretty conventional in following the Jewish faith, and shouldn’t be confused with groups like the Black Hebrew Israelites. There’s no direct connection to Ethiopian Jews as a few have suggested.

History of Beth Shalom B'nai Zaken

Israelite Board of Rabbis-BlackJews.org

The Soul of Judaism

38 posted on 06/05/2004 1:17:31 PM PDT by SJackson (America...thru dissent and protest lost the ability to mobilize a will to win, Col Bui Tin, PAVN)
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To: Amelia

Hope you're right. A few years ago---just before 9/11---I worked as a ghostwriter for a prominent black "televangelist" who was called by God to wake up the black church against the dangers of black Muslims and Islam.


39 posted on 06/05/2004 6:16:36 PM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of news.)
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To: RightWingAtheist

WOW!!!!!


40 posted on 06/05/2004 6:17:54 PM PDT by cyborg
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