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50 Caliber Handgun Threatens Police Lives, VPC Study Warns
VPC and Join Together ^ | 6-3-04 | Tom Diaz

Posted on 06/04/2004 4:53:13 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan

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To: Dan from Michigan
Quite likely criminals would much prefer a more easily concealable nickle-plated Jennings .25 to this gun.

But that doesn't make for nearly as hyperventilating a story from VPC...

41 posted on 06/04/2004 5:57:20 PM PDT by Gritty ("a 'gun-free' zone is most assuredly not a 'safe' zone!)
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To: Shooter 2.5; MeekOneGOP; Happy2BMe; PhilDragoo; potlatch; ntnychik; Smartass; Travis McGee


Ban the Walker Colt!

Ban the Walker Colt!

It's a monster!




42 posted on 06/04/2004 6:08:03 PM PDT by devolve (````````````````` [..........................Hello from Sunny South Florida.........................)
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To: Dan from Michigan
Cruiser Buster: The VPC Warns of New Threat to Police Officers

The Violence Propaganda Center would like to make upstanding citizens aware of a vicious threat to law enforcement officers NOW BEING SOLD openly on the streets.

The SUV, or "cop-killer station wagon".

These hulking behemoths can easily defeat level III-A body armor and even tear through the doors of police vehicles.

Clearly no law-abidiing sportsman needs to own one of these vehicles-of-war, a type of vehicle often used by terrorists in Afghanistan and Iraq. They are being sold openly by dealers and even private citizens with NO background checks.

If you don't want to see cop-killer SUVs on America's streets, help support common-sense legislation to ban these crushing leviathans, these baby-runners-over forever.

Sincerely, Josh Suckass, VPC

43 posted on 06/04/2004 6:08:24 PM PDT by Sender (BURROW this is SNOWBALL NET. No, nothing is happening. It's the V-chip.)
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To: Dan from Michigan
In addition, he pointed out, at least one shoulder holster is being sold for the Magnum revolver, thus making it easy for criminals to carry the gun concealed.

"Easy to carry concealed"? You've got to be f'ing kidding me!

44 posted on 06/04/2004 6:09:06 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: Dan from Michigan
Did you ever notice anything new about firearms is a threat to the police or will add to more gun crime?
45 posted on 06/04/2004 6:15:20 PM PDT by oyez (Fortune favors the bold.)
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To: Dan from Michigan

Feel lucky, elk? Well, do ya?


46 posted on 06/04/2004 6:16:41 PM PDT by happydogdesign
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To: devolve
A friend of mine and I take our .44 mags with scope out for plinking a few times a year.

You would never want to be "down range" from one of those babies. They will snuff a grizzly in 3 body shot (not head).

47 posted on 06/04/2004 6:19:14 PM PDT by Happy2BMe (U.S.A. - - United We Stand - - Divided We Fall - - Support Our Troops - - Vote BUSH)
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To: Shooter 2.5
You are absolutely right. Sorry, it must have been Freedom Arms (Casull .454?). I am always mixing them up. What I remember is gigantic revolver, stunned shooter and the rest of us laughing hysterically.
48 posted on 06/04/2004 6:21:03 PM PDT by GSlob
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To: boycottliberalhollywood.com
I can back you up on that,I shoot a H&K chambered in 40.S&W,that is not a body armor piercing round.
49 posted on 06/04/2004 6:26:10 PM PDT by Redcoat LI (You Can Trust Me , I'm Not Like The Others.....)
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To: Dan from Michigan

.50 cal handguns, the weapons of choice for criminals.

Large capacity semi-autos, the weapons of choice for criminals.

Semi-auto "assault weapons", the weapons of choice for criminals.

Saturday Night Specials, the weapons of choice for criminals.

Easily concealable handguns, the weapons of choice for criminals.

Pump shotguns, the weapons of choice for criminals.

Semi-auto shotguns, the weapons of choice for criminals.

WOULD THESE DAMN CRIMINALS MAKE UP THEIR MINDS AND SETTLE ON ONE WEAPON OF CHOICE, PLEASE??


50 posted on 06/04/2004 6:33:21 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: Dan from Michigan

At one time the S&W .357 was the weapon of choice... of police officers. Now they've mostly gone over to the dark side..Glocks. (just kidding!)


51 posted on 06/04/2004 6:34:48 PM PDT by El Gato (Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
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To: Dan from Michigan
Man just when I think there is no possible way they could think up more BS.......Guess my 500 Linebaugh is on their short list too. Have ya seen the new 50 GI caliber for the 1911A1 in this issue of handgunner ? Gotta get one of those ASAP ! Before these turdburglers get em banned.

Stay Safe Dan and thanks for posting these threads. Your a solid source of info on the RKBA & 2nd issues. Thanks !

52 posted on 06/04/2004 6:41:08 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: Larry Lucido
WOULD THESE DAMN CRIMINALS MAKE UP THEIR MINDS AND SETTLE ON ONE WEAPON OF CHOICE, PLEASE??

You're absolutely right! I agree!

We lobby to pass a law mandating that criminals can only choose one type of weapon.

For the children!!

((shhh. Don't tell anyone but I just bought a 6.5" version of this and will buy the 4" version when it comes out. That ought to get 'em going))

53 posted on 06/04/2004 6:42:51 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (In God We Trust. All Others We Monitor.)
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To: Chode
The new Smith & Wesson .500 Magnum revolver might be the first Crew Served Handgun, but, I bet if you got hit with the Desert Eagle .50AE, vest or no vest, it's Church.

The .500 S&W, with the same 325 grain bullet, is about 200 fps faster than the .50 AE. (1600 vs 1400 fps). Either one is gonna smart, even if you've got on ceramic trauma plates.

54 posted on 06/04/2004 6:47:12 PM PDT by El Gato (Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
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To: Dan from Michigan
These VPC press releases just make me fume. They are so full of lies and hyperbole.

To my knowledge, no .500 S&W has been used in a crime, it's a revolver designed for handgun hunting, no more or less threatening to a police vest than most T/C center-fires that have been on the market for years.

The VPC is the same outfit that claimed the S&W .500 was the 'weapon of choice' of street gangs on the day it was announced at the SHOT show in February 2003.

It is unfortunately only the latest example of dangerously reckless marketing by America's virtually unregulated gun industry." Diaz further noted that the .500 Magnum handgun, first introduced in February 2003, is already appearing at gun shows, notorious as sources of criminal gun trafficking.

Nice snide little remark about gun shows thrown in gratuitously. Anyone attending a gun show will be startled at the lack of hoodlum, gangsters, and terrorists. They are mostly a haven of middle-aged white guys. BTW, anyone buying a new S&W .500 at a gun show will have to submit to a FBI instant check, same as any other gun, same as any other seller of new guns. Pretty unregulated, huh?

The .500 Magnum follows a Smith & Wesson tradition of designing extremely powerful handguns. Vest Buster points out that 27 out of 144 (nearly one out of every five) law enforcement officers slain with a handgun from 1998 through 2000 were killed with one of three types of handgun and cartridge combinations originally designed and introduced by Smith & Wesson: the .357 Magnum, the .44 Magnum, and the .40 S&W.

They neglect to mention that the .357 was designed at the request of law enforcement to replace the anemic .38 special. That the .40S&W/10MM was designed in cooperation with the FBI. S&W has a fine reputation of supplying law enforcement with the tools they've desired for generations.

I suspect the vehemence directed at S&W is the result of their new American owners reneging on the deal of the former Brit owners with the Clintons.

After reading this hit piece on S&W, most gun owners should be reassured that the gun owners boycott of S&W products is over.

55 posted on 06/04/2004 6:49:35 PM PDT by TC Rider (The United States Constitution © 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
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To: Redcoat LI
This however is capable. A great buy at the present time also.


56 posted on 06/04/2004 6:51:12 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: MarkL
Still, even in a shoulder holster, even Michael Moore would have a lot of trouble concealing this big hunk of steel!

He'd have a hard time concealing a compact 9mm Glock. A fat guy has no room left under his clothes to hide anything. I'm no wear near MM's class (not anymore at least!) but I have a hard time with my "little bitty" EAA Witness Compact (in .45 ACP of course). Part of it is the way I dress most of the time, but I still haven't found a satisfactory concealment holster.

57 posted on 06/04/2004 6:52:01 PM PDT by El Gato (Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
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To: steplock
Does it use standard .50 cal MG ammo? Armor-piercing and incendiary rounds?

No, it's much less powerful than that. There are a couple of single shot .50 BMG "handguns" out there though. Takes quite an effective muzzle brake to make the things fireable by someone not named Clark Kent.

58 posted on 06/04/2004 6:53:53 PM PDT by El Gato (Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
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To: Dan from Michigan

I guess I'm safe--all I have is a .44 magnum (Anaconda) and a .480 Ruger. You know: the small stuff.


59 posted on 06/04/2004 6:56:18 PM PDT by boris (The deadliest weapon of mass destruction in history is a Leftist with a word processor)
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To: El Gato
I'm feeling very undergunned now, with my puny S&W 625 in .45 ACP.


60 posted on 06/04/2004 6:59:22 PM PDT by TC Rider (The United States Constitution © 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
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