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Muslim GI gets 14 months for avoiding duties in Iraq
Stars & Stripes ^ | 6.5.04

Posted on 06/04/2004 4:11:24 PM PDT by ambrose

Muslim GI gets 14 months for avoiding duties in Iraq

By Rick Emert, Stars and Stripes European edition, Saturday, June 5, 2004

BAMBERG, Germany - A 1st Infantry Division Engineer Brigade soldier who refused to deploy to Iraq citing religious beliefs was sentenced Thursday to 14 months' confinement and given a bad-conduct discharge.

During his court-martial, Sgt. 1st Class Abdullah Webster, 38, pleaded guilty to two counts of disobeying a lawful order from a superior commissioned officer and one count of missing movement.

When his unit was deploying on Feb. 8, Webster - the battalion security noncommissioned officer - told his leaders he would not deploy based on guidance he received from Muslim clerics.

Prosecutors Maj. Vince Vanek and Capt. Catherine Cunningham asked government witnesses about the effect Webster's refusal to deploy had on the unit.

Maj. David Kennedy, executive officer of the 82nd Engineer Battalion when Webster was assigned to the unit, said the refusal had only a modest effect on the unit because it distracted soldiers from their missions.

But Command Sgt. Maj. John S. Gioia, the 82nd Engineer Battalion's top NCO, said the unit in Iraq is now short-handed.

"We are a battalion covering a brigade combat team-sized sector," Gioia said as he testified via telephone from Iraq. "It has had a significant impact on the unit."

Gioia also said some soldiers had reservations of deploying with Webster, who converted to Islam in 1994 after returning from Operation Desert Storm.

Gioia brought up an incident in which Sgt. Asan Akbar, a Muslim soldier assigned to the 101st Airborne Division, allegedly threw a grenade into a tent killing one U.S. soldier and wounding a dozen more in March 2003.

"Some of the soldiers, when Webster didn't go, were saying: 'This is great, now we can do our job without having to watch our backs,'" Gioia testified.

Also testifying via telephone from Iraq, engineer brigade commander Col. William Haight III said Webster was "truly struggling" with his responsibilities to the Army and to his religion.

"His reputation is solid," Haight said. "The problems were when we had missions in Muslim countries; that's when he started drawing the line."

However, several witnesses testified that Webster deployed to Kosovo, a largely Muslim country, and that he carried a weapon. But the battalion commander during the Kosovo deployment, Lt. Col. Thomas Quigley, said Webster never had to go on a security patrol there.

Quigley also agreed with defense attorney Capt. Christopher Ryan that the situations in Kosovo and Iraq were far different, with the former being a peace enforcement mission and the latter being an all-out war.

Air Force Chaplain (Capt.) Hamza Al-Mubarak, an imam based at Ramstein Air Base, testified for the defense that Webster had done the right thing.

Al-Mubarak said Webster consulted several Muslim scholars, and that he chose not to deploy because the clerics said it would be better for him to die than to bear arms against fellow Muslims.

"I would not say he's an extremist," Al-Mubarak testified during cross-examination. "He was adhering to the sincere advice of the scholars. It is not permissible for him to take up arms and kill another Muslim.

"It would be better for him that he was killed than to pick up arms against anyone."

Webster had prepared a conscientious objector packet, but it was disapproved at the unit level. It has advanced to the 1st Infantry Division level, and if disapproved there, it will go to the Army level.

But Webster does not qualify as a conscientious objector, because he was not opposed to all wars, only wars in Muslim nations, Quigley said.

In closing remarks, Cunningham asked Hall to ignore the fact that Webster was a senior NCO with 18 years of service. Webster faced a maximum prison term of five years.

"Duty called; he didn't answer," she said. "There is a message to be sent. You cannot look at rank in this case."


TOPICS: Extended News; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: balkans; courtmartial; islamconvert
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1 posted on 06/04/2004 4:11:25 PM PDT by ambrose
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To: ambrose

Air Force Chaplain (Capt.) Hamza Al-Mubarak, an imam based at Ramstein Air Base, testified for the defense that Webster had done the right thing.

Enuff said.


2 posted on 06/04/2004 4:13:56 PM PDT by swarthyguy
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Gioia also said some soldiers had reservations of deploying with Webster, who converted to Islam in 1994 after returning from Operation Desert Storm.

I wonder how many GIs will be returning from Iraq as Jihadi sleepers...

3 posted on 06/04/2004 4:16:28 PM PDT by ambrose (AP Headline: "Kerry Says His 'Family' Owns SUV, Not He")
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To: swarthyguy

Agreed.


4 posted on 06/04/2004 4:17:20 PM PDT by Libertina
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To: swarthyguy

Air Force Chaplain (Capt.) Hamza Al-Mubarak, an imam based at Ramstein Air Base, testified for the defense that Webster had done the right thing.

Isn't this against the UCMJ? A chaplain, an officer, encouraging a soldier to refude a lawful order?

Any thoughts out there?


5 posted on 06/04/2004 4:19:12 PM PDT by ConservativeVoice
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To: ambrose

Islam is a cancer.


6 posted on 06/04/2004 4:19:39 PM PDT by tbpiper
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To: swarthyguy

True BELIEVING MUSLIMS should NOT be allowed to enter the armed forces, CIA, FBI and there should be NO MUSLIM Chaplins either. It makes no sense, for all true Muslims must refuse to take up arms against fellow Muslims.


7 posted on 06/04/2004 4:19:47 PM PDT by PISANO (NEVER FORGET 911 !!!!)
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To: swarthyguy
I doubt there will be an official policy against Muslim chaplains in the American military any time soon, but everyone knows who they are and where their real loyalties lie. The result of this can only be good for America.
8 posted on 06/04/2004 4:20:39 PM PDT by Petronski (Some leftists find Bush's very existence to be a "constant oppressive force in their daily psyche.")
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To: ambrose
"I would not say he's an extremist," Al-Mubarak testified during cross-examination. "He was adhering to the sincere advice of the scholars. It is not permissible for him to take up arms and kill another Muslim.

I guess there is a collateral damage waiver in the Koran..

9 posted on 06/04/2004 4:20:56 PM PDT by cardinal4 (Terrence Maculiffe-Ariolimax columbianus (hint- its a gastropod.....)
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To: ConservativeVoice

Shoot the bastard(s).


10 posted on 06/04/2004 4:21:39 PM PDT by MarineDad (Nobody ever came to regret or ruin by NOT trusting muslims.)
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To: PISANO
True BELIEVING MUSLIMS should NOT be allowed to enter the armed forces, CIA, FBI and there should be NO MUSLIM Chaplins either. It makes no sense, for all true Muslims must refuse to take up arms against fellow Muslims.

WELL SAID!

11 posted on 06/04/2004 4:21:47 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: ConservativeVoice

Technically, he's not encouraging, just agreeing with the offbase imams this douchebag consulted. Which is a fudge, but then islamis are good, excellent, in fact at that.

I guess our Afghani allies and Iraqi police and Algerian soliders are all bad muslims when they kill jihadis.

What's more shameful and disgusting than him asserting that is our meek acceptance of this bullcrap.


12 posted on 06/04/2004 4:22:08 PM PDT by swarthyguy
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To: ConservativeVoice
Isn't this against the UCMJ? A chaplain, an officer, encouraging a soldier to refude a lawful order?

Questionable conduct at best. This "imam" needs to be shown the door as well.

13 posted on 06/04/2004 4:23:09 PM PDT by TADSLOS (Right Wing Infidel since 1954)
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To: Petronski

Agreed, most serving personnel must be rather wary after all these stories and incidents. That, as you say, is very very good.

Plus, it's a load of BS. Muslims all over world fight other muslims, and some, like in the Indian Army have actively participated in killing jihadis.

AS if muslim countries have never fought wars with each other.


14 posted on 06/04/2004 4:23:42 PM PDT by swarthyguy
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To: PISANO
I agree with keeping the vermin out of our military, but as far as the 'noids not killing each other, that didn't seem to get much traction during the Iran-Iraq war.

Kinda like we shouldn't bomb the turban'd turds during the holy-holy-holy time of Ramadan.

Yeah, right. Stinking ragheads.

15 posted on 06/04/2004 4:25:08 PM PDT by MarineDad (Nobody ever came to regret or ruin by NOT trusting muslims.)
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To: ambrose

It seems, there have been reports of a coordinated Saudi campaign to convert Americans during Desert Storm.

Tinfoilly, but IMO McVeigh was a convert (i know, tangential.


16 posted on 06/04/2004 4:25:43 PM PDT by swarthyguy
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To: ConservativeVoice
"It is not permissible for him to take up arms and kill another Muslim."

But it is ok to take up arms against the infidels....like the ones in your unit.

17 posted on 06/04/2004 4:26:13 PM PDT by tbpiper
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To: ambrose
Air Force Chaplain (Capt.) Hamza Al-Mubarak, an imam based at Ramstein Air Base, testified for the defense that Webster had done the right thing.

This guy's a chaplain??? If nothing else conclusively proves that Islam is imcompatible with American values and that Muslims have no place in the U.S. Military, this does.

18 posted on 06/04/2004 4:30:41 PM PDT by Ronin (We are in a war. The enemy is Islam. It's time we stopped pretending otherwise.)
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To: swarthyguy
but IMO McVeigh was a convert

That's an interesting idea, tinfoily or not.

19 posted on 06/04/2004 4:31:04 PM PDT by tbpiper
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To: ambrose

Now if they will just execute the one who did deploy...and then attacked his own on the night before the advance, killing Major Stone.


20 posted on 06/04/2004 4:31:21 PM PDT by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com - The next World War)
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