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To: Torie; Dont Mention the War; jwalsh07
Originally posted by Torrie:
"Putting aside the partisan stuff that doesn't matter much really - no candidate losing by two percentage points has much chance of carrying the electoral college..."

But a candidate losing by two percentage points carrying the electoral college (or House) has happened twice in the last 54 Presidential contests, in 1824 and 1876. Historically that works out to be about a 3.7% occurrence.

Originally posted by Torrie:

"As I said, it is practically near impossible for a candidate to win the electoral vote, while losing the popular vote by say by more than 51.5 to 48.5 of the major party vote, and even that is a stretch."

That exact occurrence happened in 1876 when Hayes(R) beat Tilden(D) in the electoral college while losing the "popular" vote by 3.02%. That makes the current odds of a possible recurrence around 1.85%...


Presidential Election Data
in ascending "popular" vote order


                                  Winning Percentage
     Year      Winner      Electoral Vote     "Popular" Vote    Notes
   --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
     1824     Adams(6)         32.20%             30.92%       Lost "popular vote" by 10.43%
     1860      Lincoln         59.40%             39.82%
     1912      Wilson          81.92%             41.84%
     1992      Clinton         68.77%             43.01%
     1968       Nixon          55.95%             43.42%
     1856     Buchanan         58.80%             45.28%
     1892   Cleveland(24)      62.39%             46.02%
     1848      Taylor          56.20%             47.28%
     1888   Harrison(23)       58.10%             47.82%       Lost "popular" vote by 0.80%
     2000     Bush(43)         50.37%             47.87%       Lost "popular" vote by 0.51%
     1876       Hayes          50.10%             47.95%       Lost "popular" vote by 3.02%
     1880     Garfield         58.00%             48.27%
     1884   Cleveland(22)      54.60%             48.50%       Was 22nd and 24th President
     1996      Clinton         70.45%             49.23%
     1916      Wilson          52.17%             49.24%
     1844       Polk           61.80%             49.54%
     1948      Truman          57.06%             49.55%
     1960      Kennedy         56.42%             49.72%       Questionable "popular" vote victory
     1976      Carter          55.20%             50.08%
     1980      Reagan          90.89%             50.75%
     1836     Van Buren        57.80%             50.83%
     1852      Pierce          85.80%             50.84%
     1896     McKinley         60.63%             51.03%
     1908       Taft           66.46%             51.57%
     1900     McKinley         65.32%             51.64%
     1868       Grant          72.80%             52.66%
     1840    Harrison(9)       79.60%             52.88%       Was grandfather of Harrison(23)
     1988     Bush(41)         79.18%             53.37%       Was father of Bush(43)
     1944   Roosevelt(32)      81.36%             53.39%
     1924     Coolidge         71.94%             54.04%
     1832      Jackson         76.00%             54.23%
     1940   Roosevelt(32)      84.56%             54.74%
     1864      Lincoln         90.60%             55.02%
     1952    Eisenhower        83.24%             55.18%
     1872       Grant          78.10%             55.63%
     1828      Jackson         68.20%             55.97%
     1904   Roosevelt(26)      70.59%             56.42%       Was cousin to Roosevelt(32)
     1956    Eisenhower        86.06%             57.37%
     1932   Roosevelt(32)      88.89%             57.41%       Only four term President
     1928      Hoover          83.62%             58.21%
     1984      Reagan          97.58%             58.77%
     1920      Harding         76.08%             60.32%
     1972       Nixon          96.65%             60.67%
     1936   Roosevelt(32)      98.49%             60.80%
     1964      Johnson         90.33%             61.05%
     1789    Washington        85.20%              n/a         No Opponent
     1792    Washington        97.80%              n/a         No Opponent
     1796     Adams(2)         51.40%              n/a         Was father of Adams(6)
     1800     Jefferson        52.90%              n/a         Jefferson tied with Burr in EC.
     1804     Jefferson        92.00%              n/a
     1808      Madison         69.30%              n/a
     1812      Madison         58.70%              n/a
     1816      Monroe          82.80%              n/a
     1820      Monroe          98.30%              n/a         No Opponent

Note: The "popular" vote only tracked since 1824.

Source: Dave Leip's Atlas of U.S. Presidential Elections

dvwjr

80 posted on 06/03/2004 10:35:48 PM PDT by dvwjr
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To: dvwjr

See post 81, which is a response, sort of. :)


83 posted on 06/03/2004 10:38:05 PM PDT by Torie
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