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Woman blames police for injury
south bend tribuneonline ^ | 6 3 04 | NANCY J. SULOK

Posted on 06/03/2004 6:18:45 PM PDT by freepatriot32

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To: ActionNewsBill
Where is the racism in wanting bad cops to be punished for their misdeeds?

He wrote :"And those jack-boots can go to the pen and see what some big bubba can do with their fair skins."

Had he written "their black skins" in relation to wishing the women would get raped or abused in jail I would also call him on racism. Racism is ugly. It has no place in FR.

Maybe you feel they should get a medal intead.

I feel that the women should have obeyed the police officers when instructed to move. It would have been wise and avoided the entire subsequent episode. As to whether they used excessive force, I reserve judgment.

41 posted on 06/04/2004 10:43:10 AM PDT by af_vet_1981
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To: ActionNewsBill

I'm not sticking up for the cops....I'm stick up for their right to be heard as well. You on the other hand judge them without all of the facts.

Do you always stalk a freeper's past debates?


42 posted on 06/04/2004 10:43:22 AM PDT by Arpege92 (There are no more political simpletons in the world today other than European Leftist -Yossi Halevi)
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To: ActionNewsBill
the police officers in this case were wrong

That's okay, I won't bother pointing you back to the posts where it was pointed out you had convicted the cops without hearing their side. I can see this is fruitless.

43 posted on 06/04/2004 10:45:34 AM PDT by BSunday (Authority isn't automatically evil in itself)
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To: ActionNewsBill
Hey, it's a (somewhat) free country...you can say anything you like.

No. You cannot say anything you like. You cannot even do that here on FR. There are limits. Choosing to disobey a direct police order is risky. The police could be wrong (not that I think they were wrong to order the women to move on) but, even if they are, you must weigh your response carefully.

44 posted on 06/04/2004 10:46:44 AM PDT by af_vet_1981
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To: af_vet_1981
I reject your racist call to violence against the police

I missed where the race of the cops was mentioned.
Do you consider "cop" a race? Do you know what racist means
or are you simply using words above your reading level?

45 posted on 06/04/2004 10:47:54 AM PDT by humblegunner
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To: ActionNewsBill

PS I find it quite ironic that your automatic conviction of the cops is in stark contrast to your own tagline.


46 posted on 06/04/2004 10:48:33 AM PDT by BSunday (Authority isn't automatically evil in itself)
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To: humblegunner

Read the entire thread before passing judgement!


47 posted on 06/04/2004 10:49:59 AM PDT by Arpege92 (There are no more political simpletons in the world today other than European Leftist -Yossi Halevi)
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To: hopespringseternal
1) People out drinking at 2:30 in the morning are probably wasted, and looking to get even more wasted.

People who get off work at 2 am, may be looking to have a couple of drinks before the bars close...that doesn't make them looking to get wasted.

2) When a cop tells you to beat feet, do it. Don't argue with a cop, you will lose. Don't fight with a cop, you will lose worse.

The cop has no business telling you to leave private property when you have permission of the property owner to be there.

3) Cop outranks bouncer, every time.

The bouncer is representing the establishment. I'd go with the bouncer on this one.

4)When there is an "incident" happening at a bar, get the heck away. Don't stand around waiting for the shootout, or pick a fight with the cops showing up to deal with the incident.

I believe the police officer instigated this altercation.

5) While it is certainly possible that a cop might torture a suspect, when that suspect has admitting doing a whole series of egregiously stupid things, their credibility is awefully low to begin with.

I'd say it's more than possible that the fine upstanding police officer in this situation overstepped his authority, and decided to have a little "fun" by breaking this womans arm.

48 posted on 06/04/2004 10:50:35 AM PDT by ActionNewsBill ("In times of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act")
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To: humblegunner
I missed where the race of the cops was mentioned. Do you consider "cop" a race? Do you know what racist means or are you simply using words above your reading level?

"Jones said she thinks the incident was racist. Smith and Bradley are black, and the officers are white."

It was in the article. What is your reading level ?

49 posted on 06/04/2004 10:51:10 AM PDT by af_vet_1981
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To: ActionNewsBill

And now you are having a little fun twisting the facts....wait....you haven't even heard all of the facts!


50 posted on 06/04/2004 10:51:45 AM PDT by Arpege92 (There are no more political simpletons in the world today other than European Leftist -Yossi Halevi)
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To: BSunday
Al Franken must be your hero.

And just when I thought you were finished making asinine comments...there you go again.

51 posted on 06/04/2004 10:51:49 AM PDT by ActionNewsBill ("In times of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act")
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To: EggsAckley
This whole article stinks. These two (likely) whores were waiting outside at closing time, (likely) looking to hook up with a couple of johns

Come to think of it, maybe that's why she put so much emphasis on the fact she was told to stay there. Perhaps the guy who told her was her pimp.

52 posted on 06/04/2004 10:52:26 AM PDT by BSunday (Authority isn't automatically evil in itself)
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To: humblegunner
Do you consider "cop" a race?

Of course they are a "race". They are a superior race, with powers and priveleges above those of the rest of us regular citizens.

"If you're not cop, you're little people" -Bladerunner.

53 posted on 06/04/2004 10:55:04 AM PDT by ActionNewsBill ("In times of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act")
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To: ActionNewsBill; hopespringseternal
And just when I thought you were finished making asinine comments

Hey, after reading your post #37, you're a fine one to talk about asinine comments. That was one of the stupidest posts I have ever read on any thread here.

54 posted on 06/04/2004 10:56:16 AM PDT by BSunday (Authority isn't automatically evil in itself)
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To: ActionNewsBill
I believe the police officer instigated this altercation.

And I believe that I am tall, good looking, and slim.

Well, maybe as good looking as a short, fat guy can be.

55 posted on 06/04/2004 10:57:42 AM PDT by hopespringseternal (People should be banned for sophistry.)
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To: BSunday
Perhaps the guy who told her was her pimp.

The bouncer at the bar was also her pimp? Man that's really stretching it a bit.

Of course she was a whore. You've convinced me.

Let's give these brave cops a medal and a parade for protecting society for protecting the good citizens from the actions of a drunken whore..

56 posted on 06/04/2004 10:58:14 AM PDT by ActionNewsBill ("In times of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act")
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To: hopespringseternal

LOL


57 posted on 06/04/2004 10:58:33 AM PDT by Arpege92 (There are no more political simpletons in the world today other than European Leftist -Yossi Halevi)
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To: ActionNewsBill

"Let's give these brave cops a medal and a parade for protecting society for protecting the good citizens from the actions of a drunken whore."

Okay...drinks are on ActionNewsBULL(shiiter)!!!!


58 posted on 06/04/2004 11:00:32 AM PDT by Arpege92 (There are no more political simpletons in the world today other than European Leftist -Yossi Halevi)
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To: ActionNewsBill
The bouncer at the bar was also her pimp? Man that's really stretching it a bit.

What corn field in Nebraska do you hail from again ?

59 posted on 06/04/2004 11:01:48 AM PDT by BSunday (Authority isn't automatically evil in itself)
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To: BSunday
" She makes it sound like she was under strict orders from proper authority to not depart the scene no matter what."

She was told to wait to get into the bar. She has the right to do that w/o interference from the police.

"Notice how the paper said "early Sunday morning" instead of "late Saturday night", making it sound like she was going out to brunch instead of partying the night away."

The paper is correct and you are wrong. In addition she has the right to party anytime she decides to.

Now as to the charges, they are purely bogus. The officer was not attracked to disorderly conduct, but simply the 2 women standing there. He then caused problems and drummed up the charges for out of the blue.

" I wonder how drunk she was already by that time ?"

Not drunk enough to be charged with public intoxication.

60 posted on 06/04/2004 11:01:55 AM PDT by spunkets
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