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Stallman: Accusatory Report Deliberately Confuses
LinuxInsider ^ | 5/27/04 | Lisa Stapleton

Posted on 06/03/2004 4:17:02 PM PDT by Havoc

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Didn't see this posted, just more for the fire. Place book on top when done. lol
1 posted on 06/03/2004 4:17:03 PM PDT by Havoc
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To: Havoc

Pro and anti-open source/gnu software people, start your engines...


2 posted on 06/03/2004 4:28:36 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: Havoc
Accusatory Report Deliberately Confuses,:

Shouldn't that be: .....Lame, Poorly Researched, but Well Refuted and Paid "Report" (work for hire) Attempts to Confuse, but Fails Miserably.....?

That sounds MUCH closer to the truth.

3 posted on 06/03/2004 5:07:11 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Havoc
See IT Official Linus stole Linux - news.yahoo.com (FeatureXpress), May 14, 2004 - posted to Free Republic on May 17, 2004 by N3WBI3. Original FeatureXpress news story entitled: "Torvalds claim to 'invent' Linux probably false, says new study."

 

4 posted on 06/03/2004 5:53:53 PM PDT by First_Salute (May God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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To: First_Salute

I believe that's the "report" Stallman is talking about.


5 posted on 06/03/2004 5:57:28 PM PDT by tacticalogic (I Controlled application of force is the sincerest form of communication.)
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To: rdb3

ping


6 posted on 06/03/2004 6:00:50 PM PDT by Tribune7
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To: Nick Danger

Bump.


7 posted on 06/03/2004 6:04:19 PM PDT by First_Salute (May God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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To: Havoc

gates shorts are gradually turning brown.......


8 posted on 06/03/2004 6:07:29 PM PDT by mo
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To: John Robinson; B Knotts; stainlessbanner; TechJunkYard; ShadowAce; Knitebane; AppyPappy; jae471; ...
The Penguin Ping.

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Got root?


9 posted on 06/03/2004 6:22:53 PM PDT by rdb3 ($710.96... The price of freedom.)
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To: tacticalogic
Kenneth Brown, as far as I can tell from info on the Internet, is a self-styled investor and fund-raiser thereby, for large money holders --- they, who are feted by Washington Beltway [and other] "think tanks."

When widget production declines and along with it, revenues for such pools, decline, their lawyers and other "Wall Street" agents get the call to "do something about it."

The latest fashion is to practice money grubbing greed, by claiming property as your own, that either is not, or the property has been so long neglected by them, that they have lost track of it, and now are desparately disrupting all their neighbors with bullish forays through the garage in the middle of the night.

In such times, their lawyers will gladly take even more of their money and make war over every boundary line.

As with SCO... saddled with bad leadership and advice, now apparently so is the Alexis de Tocqueville Institute .

Alexis de Tocqueville is obviously unable to clear his name of that institute.

What we have here is an old fashioned range war, brought upon by what will eventually be likened to the "robber barons" of yore.

Microsoft is not the only company that can afford hired guns.

What Microsoft has not expected, nor SCO, nor Kenneth Brown & Associates, is that the people are much more organized and prepared to fight back.

Instead of like the old days, when the robber barons could rely upon the people being frightened away from the "rich lands."

What property belongs to Kenneth Brown, lawfully and legally, and what property belongs to SCO, lawfully and legally, is theirs, but none other.

What is most hurting them and Microsoft, is all their arrogance, which will be their undoing.

10 posted on 06/03/2004 6:33:29 PM PDT by First_Salute (May God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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To: First_Salute

I've been around this stuff long enough to know that when a software company stops writing new software and starts suing their competitors, they're about done.


11 posted on 06/03/2004 6:40:37 PM PDT by tacticalogic (I Controlled application of force is the sincerest form of communication.)
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To: First_Salute

Thanks for the link FS.


12 posted on 06/03/2004 7:29:09 PM PDT by Havoc ("The line must be drawn here. This far and no further!")
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To: tacticalogic

I saw the release announcement today for XP sp2 and died laughing. As usual, the cure is at least as painful as what it's curing.


13 posted on 06/03/2004 7:36:16 PM PDT by Havoc ("The line must be drawn here. This far and no further!")
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To: Havoc

For those not familiar with Mr. Stallman, the man responsible for the questionable Linux license (or contract, there seems to be some legal confusion that has yet to sort itself out in a courtroom), as well as controlling authority for many applications packaged with the various versions of Linux, you can learn more about him by visiting his daily news section on his own personal website:

http://www.stallman.org/archives/2004-mar-jun.html

I'd suggest reading it before drawing your own conclusions as to the value of his statements.


14 posted on 06/04/2004 5:42:30 AM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: Havoc

Netflix carries a good documentary on GNU/Open Source called Revolution OS:

http://www.netflix.com/MovieDisplay?trkid=73&movieid=60025132


15 posted on 06/04/2004 6:02:37 AM PDT by society-by-contract
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To: Golden Eagle

Questionable Linux license. You mean the one that allows you to modify Linux to meet your needs. You mean the one that allows you full access to linux source for your coding purposes if you don't want to build all your own libraries.
That license. I hope people do read it. Because it gives MS perpetual screamin runs. MS doesn't get to control who has access to the api functionality to make semi-stable apps. In linux everyone has access to make STABLE applications.

Stallman is an ok guy in general. Just has different views about software. And that's ok.


16 posted on 06/04/2004 7:47:37 AM PDT by Havoc ("The line must be drawn here. This far and no further!")
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To: society-by-contract

Yep. I happen to have a copy of it right here with me. Very good documentary movie. I highly recommend it.


17 posted on 06/04/2004 7:48:35 AM PDT by Havoc ("The line must be drawn here. This far and no further!")
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To: Golden Eagle
the questionable Linux license (or contract, there seems to be some legal confusion that has yet to sort itself out in a courtroom),

No question except for you and Darl. It is a license, better fitting the definition of a license than many other "licenses" out there. Court cases for violation of the GPL have all been brought as cases of copyright infringement, and not as breach of contract cases (the latter of which you'll often find in commercial software).

18 posted on 06/04/2004 7:52:22 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: Golden Eagle
I'd suggest reading it before drawing your own conclusions as to the value of his statements.

Stallman's statements on various airy subjects are always to be taken with a grain of salt. However, the area Stallman is commenting on is the definitions of the GPL, FSF, GNU and Linux. He is definitely a trusted source for the definitions and purposes of the first three and their relation to the last one. It is in this area that Stallman says Brown is deliberately trying to confuse.

19 posted on 06/04/2004 7:56:15 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: Havoc
As usual, the cure is at least as painful as what it's curing.

Aside from the lame attempts to bring IE up to par with the previous generation of other browsers, the update looks pretty useful, especially since they're supposed to have severely tightened their swiss-cheese RPC architecture.

20 posted on 06/04/2004 7:59:47 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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