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To: Taliesan
it is not what Jesus enjoined on the church. A "culture war", if that means legal or political action, is NOT WHAT JESUS TOLD THE CHURCH TO DO. If you dispute this, you simply haven't read the gospels.

Talk about not reading the gospels! I suppose you're going to pull out some unrevealed manuscript citing Jesus' rebuke of his cousin, John the Baptist, after John engaged in direct lobbying:

"But when John rebuked Herod the tetrach because of his marriage to Herodias, his brother's wife, and all the other evil things he had done, Herod added this to them all: He locked John up in prison." (Luke 3:19-20)

Poor John. He hadn't read Taliesan's Commentary on the Gospels. Maybe if he had that opportunity, he would have stuck to "doin' what cuz Jesus told him to do" and he wouldn't have lost his head.

12 posted on 06/03/2004 1:39:01 PM PDT by Colofornian (How dare the greatest man alive til Jesus (Mt. 11:11) engage in political lobbying! What nerve!)
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To: Colofornian
after John engaged in direct lobbying:

To me lobbying, in the political sense, is different than preaching. Which is what John was doing with Herod.

17 posted on 06/03/2004 2:04:02 PM PDT by Lost Highway (The things of earth will grow strangely dim in the light of his glory and grace.)
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