Posted on 06/03/2004 9:31:43 AM PDT by BobbyBeeper
And that God they did!
This was probably the most important religious event in the US in the last 25 years. The SBC is the only major (in numbers anyway) Christian chruch that still holds to a conservative view of the Bible.
Without this event, there is every chance the SBC (at the upper levels and seminaries) would be in the same shape as the other major denominations.
Are the colleges more fundamental now? Baylor wasn't looking too good IMO, 3 years ago.
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Chartered in 1845 by the Republic of Texas and affiliated with the Baptist General Convention of Texas, Baylor is the oldest institution of higher learning in the state and the largest Baptist university in the world.
The Baptist General Convention of Texas is suspect. I believe that they are much more liberal in their beliefs, approaching the level of Methodists in their policy of "inclusiveness".
It always amazes me how broadly the word "moderate" is used. Is there no such thing as liberal in these people's minds?
Baylor is controlled by the liberal state convention, not the conservative national convention. In fact, they have set up a liberal seminary because the liberals were ousted from the seminary in Fort Worth.
The lies perpetrated by Pressler, Patterson, et al were outrageous. I was amazed to hear the "fundamentalists" claim that Dr. Sherman didn't believe in miracles or the Virgin Birth of Christ, that we didn't read the Bible in church. All of these were total lies, of course, and the Presslers, the Pattersons, and the Adrian Rogers knew it.
The kicker was when the "fundamentalists" called a meeting at one of the conventions and used armed guards to prevent any "moderates" from attending. The "fundamentalists" were acting like the lying thugs that they are.
It was horrible when the "fundamentalists" took over Southwestern Seminary and fired many good professors and staff members. One of the professors was my Sunday School teacher and I knew others that attended Broadway. These were loving, caring, theologically conservative men whose only sin was not joining into the politically motivated tactics of the "fundamentalists."
If anyone doubts my theological conservatism, then please look at my past religious posts on Free Republic. We "moderates" didn't disagree with the "fundamentalists" on theology, we just despised their ethics.
I'm a Baylor grad (Chemistry, 1984). I also knew many who were ousted from Southwestern Seminary and none of them were liberal.Do you have any facts to back up your assertion that the seminary at Baylor is liberal?
I'm not Baptist but my wife is and she sees it the same as you. Her church withdrew from the SBC a few years ago.
Ok, thanks. Strange for Texas, huh?
I'm still a SB member but out of the loop some. I started attending an Independent about 7 years ago. (Yes , I'm one of those dreaded Fundamentalists :'). The reason I asked the guys this questions was because I was supposed to attend a freep at Baylor a few years ago when Janet Reno invited to speak. It was cancelled though but not because of Baylor :'( I thought it really strange that she would have been courted though.
It bugs me that if I hadn't literally been at the center of the action, I might have been on the side of the "fundamentalists." They said the right things and played on peoples' hearts who, rightly so, didn't want Baptists to go the way of so many other denominations. The only problem was that pretty much everything they said were lies.
What did they lie about?
While I am glad that the SBC is now lead by people who are real believers, I would be distressed if belief in the doctrine of young Earth creationism was expected of leaders of the SBC. I believe that this doctrine is a huge stumbling block for many people (Romans 14:13).
As far as having Janet Reno speak at Baylor, I don't see anything inherently wrong with that. I recall Baylor hosting guest speakers whose opinions I didn't agree with either and I thoroughly enjoyed the question-answer sessions afterwards. I don't see inviting Reno to speak as an endorsement of her politics and actions. I would like to see Reno speak myself -- and then have the opportunity to grill her with questions!
So what exactly were the Fundamentalists opposed to then, if everything was fine as it was? I'm not familiar with the events that took place.
After what happened in Waco??? Anyway that's a different topic but thanks for the SBC input. I stopped following because I got tired of the the fighting.
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