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Same judge OK'd Muslim prayer that OK'd partial birth abortion.
Newsmax.com | June 1, 2004

Posted on 06/02/2004 5:47:53 PM PDT by Sun

Tuesday, June 1, 2004 11:04 p.m. EDT Same Judge OK'ed Muslim Prayer

The same San Francisco federal judge who just overturned a federal law banning partial-birth abortions also approved of Muslim prayer in schools when federal rulings ban all other denominational prayers and activities.

In a December 2003 decision, U.S. District Judge Phyllis Hamilton decided that it was lawful for a California middle school teacher to require students to recite Muslim prayers, get down on their knees and role-play as Muslim adherents.

As part of the class students were told to recite: "In the name of Allah, the Compassionate, the Merciful. Praise be to Allah, Lord of Creation, The Compassionate, the Merciful, King of Judgment-day! You alone we worship, and to You alone we pray for help, Guide us to the straight path."

The Byron County 7th-grade world history teacher was sued by the parents of one of the students, who claimed that their child had been coerced to engage in a religious practice.

Hamilton, in a summary judgment, ruled that the teacher's actions were legal.

The teacher prepared a student guide which said that as part of the study of Islam "you and your classmates will become Muslims."

According to court documents, the teacher also read the Koran and Muslim prayers out loud in class and required students to recite lines of Muslim prayers in class as well.

Students also were told to recite Islamic prayers as they exited the class, including the Muslim refrain "In the name of God, most merciful, most gracious."

The teacher also assigned students to fast or give up something like TV for a day to experience Islam's month of Ramadan and one of its pillars of faith.

At the end of their Islamic studies, students also were required to write an essay on Islam. But, but the teacher instructed her students, "BE CAREFUL HERE – If you don't have something positive to say, don't say anything!!!"

In her ruling, Judge Hamilton threw out the parents' case, saying the religious role-playing was not tantamount to the exercise of religion and the school activities were not of a devotional or religious nature.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: islam; judgehamilton; muslimprayer; partialbirthabortion; phyllishamilton; schoolprayer
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What happened to the separation of church and state mantra here?

I was reading that in NYC, after 911, they had a special prayer room for the Islam religion. Some Catholics asked where was their prayer room.

1 posted on 06/02/2004 5:47:55 PM PDT by Sun
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To: Sun
Is there any way for a Federal judge to be removed?
2 posted on 06/02/2004 5:50:23 PM PDT by zencat (Visit my profile for MAGNETIC Bush/Cheney '04 bumper stickers!)
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To: zencat
"Is there any way for a Federal judge to be removed?"

Boy, that's a LOADED question!
;-D

3 posted on 06/02/2004 5:57:58 PM PDT by haywoodwebb (American-Negro-Conservative- A Return to the Party of Lincoln)
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To: Sun

Islamofascists look at murder as post natal abortion. The demented judge must concur.


4 posted on 06/02/2004 6:03:49 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty
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To: zencat
The same San Francisco federal judge who just overturned a federal law banning partial-birth abortions also approved of Muslim prayer in schools when federal rulings ban all other denominational prayers and activities.

Tyrants in black robes.

Bush tries to nominate good judges and can't even get the DEMONcrats to follow the Constitution.

Where will it all end up? I shudder to think just how far they're willing to go.

I believe the Chief Justice of the CA Supremes is married to the head of the ACLU. Does anyone see a conflict there?

5 posted on 06/02/2004 6:05:27 PM PDT by Mister Baredog ((Kerry is a major dork))
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To: zencat
Is there any way for a Federal judge to be removed?

Lifetime appointment. Removal by impeachment. IIRC there has been one federal judge removed since Reconstruction. The (less than) Honorable Alcee Hastings. I believe he is now a Democrat Representative from Florida.

7 posted on 06/02/2004 6:10:46 PM PDT by Lawgvr1955 (How did Ted Kennedy, who enlisted in the Army, achieve the rank of Admiral of the SS Oldsmobile???)
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To: zencat
The IRS is pretty good at judge removal, especially at the state level. The true remedy is for the congress to do it's job and impeach judges who don't defend the Constitution of The United States. You know, that promise they made when sworn into office?

If the congress refuses to do their job and you ask the question out of frustration, it's time to vote on an informed basis.

8 posted on 06/02/2004 6:10:54 PM PDT by blackdog (I feed the sheep the coyotes eat)
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To: Sun
What happened to the separation of church and state mantra here?

Not applicable here...as Thomas Jefferson never said anything about
separation of mosque and state.

I guaran-darn-tee you some liberals would probably rule on that sort of basis.
9 posted on 06/02/2004 6:11:46 PM PDT by VOA
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To: zencat
Is there any way for a Federal judge to be removed soundly kicked in the a$$ and thrown out the door?

Disgusting.

LVM

10 posted on 06/02/2004 6:12:58 PM PDT by LasVegasMac ("If everything is just barely under control......you are not going fast enough" - MA.)
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I wish that teacher had tried that praying to allah crap at my High School, we'd have humilated her and forced her to retire early. As it was, my friends a I deliberately failed the "Afro Asian Cultures" final exam, because the third world sticks-and-mud kingdoms and their leaders with unpronouncable names were nothing but a pathetic joke to us. We knew America was infinitely superior to them, no matter what the teacher wanted us to believe. It only made us more cynical of the liberals that tried to force that crap on us.


11 posted on 06/02/2004 6:21:10 PM PDT by rageaholic
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I'm shocked that only 1 parent spoke out against this.

There needed to be a big rally with all the parents protesting this disgusting thing.

12 posted on 06/02/2004 6:31:14 PM PDT by LADY J
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To: zencat

I've heard they can be impeached, but nobody seems to be doing it. There should be term limits for judges. (Actually I would prefer jail.)


13 posted on 06/02/2004 6:32:30 PM PDT by Sun (Slavery was justifed by claiming the victims were not people; abortion is justified that way today.)
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To: Mister Baredog

Looks like a conflict to me.


14 posted on 06/02/2004 6:34:25 PM PDT by Sun (Slavery was justifed by claiming the victims were not people; abortion is justified that way today.)
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To: Ursa63

The only things I can think of is to make a LOT of noise. They don't like bad publicity. Write letters to the editor, contact our reps, call radio talk shows......

Anybody have any other ideas?


15 posted on 06/02/2004 6:37:06 PM PDT by Sun (Slavery was justifed by claiming the victims were not people; abortion is justified that way today.)
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To: Sun

America's mullahs are a glimpse of the enemy within.


16 posted on 06/02/2004 6:40:55 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: rageaholic

I took a New York State civil service test years ago, and some of the questions were about black culture which had nothing to do with the job.

Fortunately, I had some black friends and knew the answers.

P.C. is EVERYWHERE!


17 posted on 06/02/2004 6:41:36 PM PDT by Sun (Slavery was justifed by claiming the victims were not people; abortion is justified that way today.)
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Does anyone know the case number or name in which the idiot judge ruled in favor of Islamic prayers in school? I'd love to use this against some lefties on another forum but if I just use Newsmax as a source, they'll dismiss it as "right wing propaganda" and the mods will delete it as "flame bait".
18 posted on 06/02/2004 6:44:53 PM PDT by COEXERJ145
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To: Sun

There is a consistency in his rulings. See the abortionists kill you before you are born while the jihadi's kill you after.

The judge aint real particular how we get whacked just so long as we get whacked.........

Now time to impeach the S.O.B. justice, strip the robe, and make the justice parade around with undies on the head.


19 posted on 06/02/2004 6:46:42 PM PDT by festus
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To: haywoodwebb
I told my wife last night that a revolt is going to happen...(Feds...NOT ME!)...the Judges are going to be physically removed if they don't start reading and interpreting the Constitution the way it was written!
20 posted on 06/02/2004 6:49:00 PM PDT by Hotdog
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