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To: Ken H
Look, Ken H, I'm really getting tired of playing 20 questions with you.

You asked if Congress can ban weapons under the Commerce Clause. I said yes. The U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia said yes. The USSC let it stand, "without comment". WTF don't you understand?

Now you bring up the second amendment. What does that have to do with the above? Why don't you just go ahead and bring up the fifth? The ninth? The tenth, while you're at it?

They can, and did, ban weapons under the Commerce Clause. That doesn't mean they could have constitutionally done it under the second amendment (or any other amendment), which was tacticalogic's question.

You're mixing apples and oranges, here. I'm done.

453 posted on 06/10/2004 11:31:17 AM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: robertpaulsen; tpaine; tacticalogic
You asked if Congress can ban weapons under the Commerce Clause. I said yes. The U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia said yes. The USSC let it stand, "without comment". WTF don't you understand?

No, I did not ask if Congress can ban weapons under the Commerce Clause. I asked if you, robertpaulsen, believe the words of the Commerce Clause mean that Congress can ban weapons. Here's the quote:

In your opinion, based on how you understand the meaning of the actual words of the Commerce Clause, does Congress have the constitutional authority to ban assault weapons under the Commerce Clause.

I was not asking how the Court has ruled or what Congress has said or done. It is a question about what robertpaulsen thinks the words of the Constitution mean.

Same thing with the Second Amendment. I am not asking what the Courts or Congress said. We all know what they said.

I am asking what you, robertpaulsen, think the words of the Second Amendment mean.

You, robertpaulsen, independent of what the Court or Congress says, believe the words of the Second Amendment mean that the RKBA shall not be infringed by the Federal government, correct?

So I ask again, do you, robertpaulsen, believe the words of the Commerce Clause allow the Federal government to infringe the RKBA such as the assault weapon ban? Not the Court, not Congress, I'm asking for robertpaulsen's understanding of the words of the Commerce Clause with respect to the RKBA.

They can, and did, ban weapons under the Commerce Clause.

Correct. Does robertpaulsen (not the Courts, not Congress) believe this is a Second Amendment violation?

457 posted on 06/10/2004 12:21:53 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: robertpaulsen
robertpaulsen wrote:

You're mixing apples and oranges, here. I'm done.

Quite true paulsen. Your fruit salad logic has been "done" to a turn.

462 posted on 06/10/2004 12:54:33 PM PDT by tpaine (The line dividing good and evil cuts through the heart of every human being" -- Solzhenitsyn)
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