Posted on 06/02/2004 10:29:02 AM PDT by Edward_Daley
By I. N. Tanswer - June 9, 1944
Tuesday's invasion of the European continent by primarily American and British forces may go down in history as the biggest military blunder of all time. The presumptuousness of the invasion's name alone, "Operation Overlord", should have been our first clue as to the state of mind of the people who concocted this foolhardy and now obviously disastrous scheme. As the number of casualties continues to rise, with estimates approaching 50,000 dead and 240,000 wounded, many patriotic Americans are forced to ask if Mr. Roosevelt's preemptive war against the people of Germany has been worth the cost of so many innocent young lives.
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Do you know if there is a statute of limitations on treason?
"You are still ignoring the fact that it was at least 9 days later that they were allowed to leave."
Actually, I don't have that confirmed yet.
"Yes we gave Saddam chemical weapons in 1983 who then in time used them against his own people, Big mistake on our part but then again Iran was and is the reason we are fighting today!"
Thanks for at least admitting this. I've had to respond earlier in this thread to posters who denied even this occurring. Your "Iran" point is a good one.
"You Sir are an AH!"
Why - because I'm right?
Thanks for the "Sir" part and I've been called worse, thank you.
Of course you are right.....It is sad that people would rather blame our President and think that he is really out to kill the American people to line his own pockets---than believe the truth!
I find it amazing that these clods can not see that the Saudi family who Usama hated so much, very well could have been targets of his terrorists! The terrorists would have liked to have killed them as well, on U.S. ground.
LOL!!!
*evil grin*
My apologies on the misquote. So, at least you have admitted to one false statement vis-a-vis the date.
Now if you will be so kind as to provide, by name, a list of those that were flown out on 9/13 who were directly related to Osama (i.e. he was their brother). Or of course, you could always admit that you made a second false statement.
P.S. This is an open internet forum, you would probably be shocked to learn how many people were monitoring your "private" conversation. LOL
Omaha Beach was not the only quagmire. How about the strategic bombing campaign of 1943 in which the deep penetration raids into Germany were called off after the catastrophic heavy bomber casualties of Schweinfurt and Regensberg? No one was whining loudly and publicly about the fact that the self defending bomber formation concept was flawed and that they failed in not having a long-range fighter escort ready at the time. We are so used to the Air Force sustaining almost no casualties in current day operations that we often forget that the 8th Air Force alone had more dead (26,000) than all the entire Marine Corps did in World War II (20,000) there were no loudly public howls of quagmire, quagmire we can't win this.
How about the night naval battle off Savo Island, Guadalcanal in August of 1942 in which the United States Navy, defeated by a Japanese navy far better versed in night fighting tactics, sailed away and left the Marines stranded on Guadalcanal? There weren't any howls of quagmire, quagmire we can't win.
How about the slaughter off the Eastern Seaboard of the United States in 1942 in which the U-boats of the German Kreigsmarine during Operation Drumbeat sunk 500 allied merchant ships in a six-month period in the greatest naval disaster in United States history? Again no howls of quagmire, quagmire we can't win.
How about the Kasserine pass in Tunisia in February of 1943? Rommel's Afrika Corps soundly defeated and routed green American troops, sending them into pell mell retreat. Again no howls of quagmire, quagmire these Germans are just too tough to beat.
How about the bloody stalemate inflicted on units of the 1st, 4th, 28th, and 9th infantry divisions by the Germans during the battle of Huertegen Forest as a prelude to the Battle of the Bulge? Or that battle's disastrous opening on the Schnee Eifel in Belgium in which intelligence failures allowed a totally surprised American Army to lose two whole infantry regiments in the opening rounds of the battle? Again no howls of quagmire, quagmire we just can't win.
Or how about the defeat inflicted on the allies during Operation Market garden in 1944 when everyone knew the Germans were already beaten? Or the horrendous losses off Okinawa? Or the bloody repulse at the Rapido River in January of 1944, or the bloody stalemate at Anzio or even the entire checkmated Italian campaign? Again no howls of quagmire, quagmire we can't win.
We often forget that World War II was no unrelieved string of victories until the final triumph. We often suffered defeat on the battlefield, sometimes catastrophic, but we prevailed because we knew that we had to.
Nothing even remotely resembling any of these historical disasters of World War II has occurred in Iraq, but these infantile naysayers who try to pose the situation has an absolute defeat are either hopelessly naïve or determined to demoralize our soldiers and willfully undermine this effort. Despite the setbacks that have occurred in Iraq, there is nothing here they cannot be remedied to this country's favor.
You make a good point, however, my little mock article was written with the upcoming D-Day anniversary in mind, so going into what happened during other battles wasn't really pertinent.
"Now if you will be so kind as to provide, by name, a list of those that were flown out on 9/13 who were directly related to Osama (i.e. he was their brother). Or of course, you could always admit that you made a second false statement."
Naaa. It's not worth the time. Neither of us will change any opinions based on this thread, so why waste the effort.
Besides, Bush himself hasn't denied that this occurred so why don't you ask him?
I love you.
Don't let my girlfriend hear you say that. ;o)
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