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(from 1946) Americans Are Losing the Victory in Europe
kultursmog dot com ^ | 1946 | John dos Passos

Posted on 06/01/2004 5:27:52 PM PDT by doug from upland

We are in a cabin deep down below decks on a Navy ship jam-packed with troops that’s pitching and creaking its way across the Atlantic in a winter gale. There is a man in every bunk. There’s a man wedged into every corner. There’s a man in every chair. The air is dense with cigarette smoke and with the staleness of packed troops and sour wool.

“Don’t think I’m sticking up for the Germans,” puts in the lanky young captain in the upper berth, “but…”

“To hell with the Germans,” says the broad-shouldered dark lieutenant. “It’s what our boys have been doing that worries me.”

The lieutenant has been talking about the traffic in Army property, the leaking of gasoline into the black market in France and Belgium even while the fighting was going on, the way the Army kicks the civilians around, the looting.

“Lust, liquor and loot are the soldier’s pay,” interrupts a red-faced major.

The lieutenant comes out with his conclusion: “Two wrongs don’t make a right.” You hear these two phrases again and again in about every bull session on the shop. “Two wrongs don’t make a right” and “Don’t think I’m sticking up for the Germans, but….”

The troops returning home are worried. “We’ve lost the peace,” men tell you. “We can’t make it stick.”

A tour of the beaten-up cities of Europe six months after victory is a mighty sobering experience for anyone. Europeans. Friend and foe alike, look you accusingly in the face and tell you how bitterly they are disappointed in you as an American. They cite the evolution of the word “liberation.” Before the Normandy landings it meant to be freed from the tyranny of the Nazis. Now it stands in the minds of the civilians for one thing, looting.

You try to explain to these Europeans that they expected too much. They answer that they had a right to, that after the last was America was the hope of the world. They talk about the Hoover relief, the work of the Quakers, the speeches of Woodrow Wilson. They don’t blame us for the fading of that hope. But they blame us now.

Never has American prestige in Europe been lower. People never tire of telling you of the ignorance and rowdy-ism of American troops, of out misunderstanding of European conditions. They say that the theft and sale of Army supplies by our troops is the basis of their black market. They blame us for the corruption and disorganization of UNRRA. They blame us for the fumbling timidity of our negotiations with the Soviet Union. They tell us that our mechanical de-nazification policy in Germany is producing results opposite to those we planned. “Have you no statesmen in America?” they ask.

The skeptical French press

Yet whenever we show a trace of positive leadership I found Europeans quite willing to follow our lead. The evening before Robert Jackson’s opening of the case for the prosecution in the Nurnberg trial, I talked to some correspondents from the French newspapers. They were polite but skeptical. They were willing enough to take part in a highly publicized act of vengeance against the enemy, but when you talked about the usefulness of writing a prohibition of aggressive war into the law of nations they laughed in your face. The night after Jackson’s nobly delivered and nobly worded speech I saw then all again. They were very much impressed. Their manner had even changed toward me personally as an American. Their sudden enthusiasm seemed to me typical of the almost neurotic craving for leadership of the European people struggling wearily for existence in the wintry ruins of their world.

The ruin this war has left in Europe can hardly be exaggerated. I can remember the years after the last war. Then, as soon as you got away from the military, all the little strands and pulleys that form the fabric of a society were still knitted together. Farmers took their crops to market. Money was a valid medium of exchange. Now the entire fabric of a million little routines has broken down. No on can think beyond food for today. Money is worthless. Cigarettes are used as a kind of lunatic travesty on a currency. If a man goes out to work he shops around to find the business that serves the best hot meal. The final pay-off is the situation reported from the Ruhr where the miners are fed at the pits so that they will not be able to take the food home to their families.

“Well, the Germans are to blame. Let them pay for it. It’s their fault,” you say. The trouble is that starving the Germans and throwing them out of their homes is only producing more areas of famine and collapse.

One section of the population of Europe looked to us for salvation and another looked to the Soviet Union. Wherever the people have endured either the American armies or the Russian armies both hopes have been bitterly disappointed. The British have won a slightly better reputation. The state of mind in Vienna is interesting because there the part of the population that was not actively Nazi was about equally divided. The wealthier classes looked to America, the workers to the Soviet Union.

The Russians came first. The Viennese tell you of the savagery of the Russian armies. They came like the ancient Mongol hordes out of the steppes, with the flimsiest supply. The people in the working-class districts had felt that when the Russians came that they at least would be spared. But not at all. In the working-class districts the tropes were allowed to rape and murder and loot at will. When victims complained, the Russians answered, “You are too well off to be workers. You are bourgeoisie.”

When Americans looted they took cameras and valuables but when the Russians looted they took everything. And they raped and killed. From the eastern frontiers a tide of refugees is seeping across Europe bringing a nightmare tale of helpless populations trampled underfoot. When the British and American came the Viennese felt that at last they were in the hands of civilized people. But instead of coming in with a bold plan of relief and reconstruction we came in full of evasions and apologies.

U.S. administration a poor third

We know now the tragic results of the ineptitudes of the Peace of Versailles. The European system it set up was Utopia compared to the present tangle of snarling misery. The Russians at least are carrying out a logical plan for extending their system of control at whatever cost. The British show signs of recovering their good sense and their innate human decency. All we have brought to Europe so far is confusion backed up by a drumhead regime of military courts. We have swept away Hitlerism, but a great many Europeans feel that the cure has been worse than the disease. [Emphasis mine]

The taste of victory had gone sour in the mouth of every thoughtful American I met. Thoughtful men can’t help remembering that this is a period in history when every political crime and every frivolous mistake in statesmanship has been paid for by the death of innocent people. The Germans built the Stalags; the Nazis are behind barbed wire now, but who will be next? Whenever you sit eating a good meal in the midst of a starving city in a handsome house requisitioned from some German, you find yourself wondering how it would feel to have a conqueror drinking out of your glasses. When you hear the tales of the brutalizing of women from the eastern frontier you think with a shudder of of those you love and cherish at home.

That we are one world is unfortunately a brutal truth. Punishing the German people indiscriminately for the sins of their leader may be justice, but it is not helping to restore the rule of civilization. The terrible lesson of the events of this year of victory is that what is happening to the bulk of Europe today can happen to American tomorrow.

In America we are still rich, we are still free to move from place to place and to talk to our friends without fear of the secret police. The time has come, for our own future security, to give the best we have to the world instead of the worst. So far as Europe is concerned, American leadership up to now has been obsessed with a fear of our own virtues. Winston Churchill expressed this state of mind brilliantly in a speech to his own people which applies even more accurately to the people of the U.S. “You must be prepared,” he warned them, “for further efforts of mind and body and further sacrifices to great causes, if you are not to fall back into the rut if inertia, the confusion of aim and the craven fear of being great.”


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41 posted on 06/01/2004 6:38:18 PM PDT by Lyford
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To: KellyAdmirer
I have a Father-in-Law and Mother-in-Law who both were living in Post War Italy. All I have ever heard from both of them is that when the Americans came, things started getting better. It was Hell under the Fascist's, German's, British and the likes, but the American Troops were helpful and rebuilt their society. I'm sure there were bad apples back then as now, but look at the big picture and the reality is we saved that hellhole of a continent from it self, picked it up and put it back on its feet.
42 posted on 06/01/2004 6:54:27 PM PDT by Woodman ("One of the most striking differences between a cat and a lie is that a cat has only nine lives." PW)
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To: Woodman
The original posting on this Life Magazine article came from a blog called Jessica's Well.

The link to the original post is http://www.jessicaswell.com/MT/archives/000872.html

Check it out. There are tons and tons of comments there.

43 posted on 06/01/2004 7:20:25 PM PDT by Natalie in Midland
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To: doug from upland

BTTT


44 posted on 06/01/2004 7:27:55 PM PDT by Sam's Army (Hang up and drive, dammit!)
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To: doug from upland
This is for real????

I presumed this was a parody.
45 posted on 06/01/2004 7:27:55 PM PDT by Incorrigible (immanentizing the eschaton)
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To: doug from upland

Truman should have planned for the peace before starting the war. [/sarcasm]


46 posted on 06/01/2004 7:38:29 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (NEOCON NOW)
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To: KellyAdmirer
We have swept away Hitlerism, but a great many Europeans feel that the cure has been worse than the disease.

I imagine that is exactly how they felt in Poland, E. Germany, Czechoslovakia, Hungary, .....

47 posted on 06/01/2004 7:42:35 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (NEOCON NOW)
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To: doug from upland
Here is an article from the New York Times dated Dec.7 1945.

Kind of reminds me of the no WMD rant we hear today!

48 posted on 06/01/2004 7:51:47 PM PDT by tapatio
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To: Incorrigible

This is indeed for real.


49 posted on 06/01/2004 7:52:12 PM PDT by doug from upland (Don't wait until it is too late to stop Hillary -- do something today!)
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To: tapatio
Or Dec.3 1945 New York Times
50 posted on 06/01/2004 7:56:01 PM PDT by tapatio
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To: nopardons; Petronski
Was he?

I was recollecting 'Mid-Century', in which he more or less defends America against the Reds.

It's been 40 years; hard to believe how the time goes!

You're right, I believe - he was anti-Stalin, but a left sympathizer.

51 posted on 06/01/2004 8:10:38 PM PDT by headsonpikes (Spirit of '76 bttt!)
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To: TexasGreg
Isn't it just amazing that so few Americans have any comprehension of history?

The thing that slays me is the way the PC/leftist/liberal crowd valorizes our conduct in WWII while our conduct in Iraq is demonized.

NPR did a piece on Ernie Pyle over the weekend, and they were getting all moony over casualties in the Air War with returning Fortresses firing red flares, and the waiting for them, and so on. No mention that these guys were slaughtering innocent civilians by the thousands - tens of thousands!

I watched a show about "Bull" Halsey, who called outright for the genocide of the Japanese - "When I am done Japanese will be a language spoken only in hell" Imagine! Actually, I think he was a little over the top even then. They showed him at some kind of civic leader pep talk, where he humorously did a one-up on "the only good Indian is a dead Indian" He said the only good Japanese was one who was dead for a month - a little abstract, but nonetheless I felt like the civilian audience was taken aback.

52 posted on 06/01/2004 8:11:40 PM PDT by dr_lew
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To: doug from upland

timely repost bump


53 posted on 06/01/2004 8:12:05 PM PDT by VOA
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To: nopardons
Thanks for finding and posting this.It just shows that there have always been defeatists and naysayers.

Why am I reminded of Ann Coulter's book Treason ??

54 posted on 06/01/2004 8:20:40 PM PDT by Mo1 (Make Michael Moore cry.... DONATE MONTHLY!!!)
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To: Tamsey; prairiebreeze

PING


55 posted on 06/01/2004 8:26:41 PM PDT by Mo1 (Make Michael Moore cry.... DONATE MONTHLY!!!)
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To: headsonpikes
It was 1959 or 1960,when I was forced to read/study his absolutely HORRID work,by an obvious lefty English teacher.She made us do research on him and if memory serves,he was a HUGE Trotskyite.Of course the Stalinists hated him.

It's been a VERY long time,since I've thought of him,but that's my still vivid memory...he was a faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar lefty.I don't know anything at all about his "defending" America,which might have come at a later time.But IF you have the stomach to read his "USA",you'll see that his writings weren't pro-American.

Even as a kid,I was rapidly anti-Commie and having to read dos Passos' works,make me want to shred the books.

56 posted on 06/01/2004 8:26:49 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: dr_lew

Far too few people know any history at all and much of what they think they know about certain eras,is false.


57 posted on 06/01/2004 8:28:56 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Mo1

Becuase so many Americans really ARE traitors,now.


58 posted on 06/01/2004 8:29:44 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: doug from upland

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1145878/posts

Link for lurkers/posters to Mark Levin's article about The New York Times pushing for cut-and-run
because America was doing everything wrong in occupied Germany in November 1945 (IIRC).


59 posted on 06/01/2004 8:32:43 PM PDT by VOA
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To: nopardons

I read 'Mid-Century' before I read his USA trilogy, and was astounded to find him such a commie! lol!

Orwell was a more subtle man than you credit him, imo.

He saw through the commie hoax before his comrades - give him that.


60 posted on 06/01/2004 8:32:48 PM PDT by headsonpikes (Spirit of '76 bttt!)
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