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To: abigail2

I have a fear, I'm afraid that the liberal left is driving the public to forget 9/11, and to believe that Islam really is a religion of peace. I hear a great many people around me scream about the injustice of the war in Iraq, and the evil motives behind it. Americans truely have a short attention span.
This is the really bad part. I fear that the public will dismiss what President Bush has done in the WOT because of our collective short attention span. That will push the swing vote to Kerry. And if Kerry is elected, the WOT will stall, and we could indeed be in danger of being overwhelmed from within, (by our newly embraced islamist immigrants under a Kerry administration).
If al-Quaida uses Spain as their model, they will attack the US before the elections. IF they do that, many will die, but Americans will respond differently. Americans will see islamists as the enemy, at least for the short term, and it will help push the swing vote to Bush.
If the islamists don't attack, the swing vote will move to Kerry, and we will be in serious, serious trouble. No one in power will have the guts to acknowledge we are in fact, at war. Or, to acknowledge islam as the enemy.
That is what I see, and I don't like it. Anyone care to correct me where I'm wrong?


8 posted on 06/01/2004 1:45:07 PM PDT by brownsfan (I didn't leave the democratic party, the democratic party left me.)
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To: brownsfan
I have a fear, I'm afraid that the liberal left is driving the public to forget 9/11, and to believe that Islam really is a religion of peace. I hear a great many people around me scream about the injustice of the war in Iraq, and the evil motives behind it. Americans truely have a short attention span.

I guess we have our work cut out for us.

16 posted on 06/01/2004 1:53:02 PM PDT by abigail2
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To: brownsfan
All you mention here is possible, but you are leaving out Bush's clear political abilities in this election. I don't agree with the president's effort with this "new tone" in DC, but remember he won an election that he really shouldn't have in 2000. Al Bore should have won that election easily, but he lost it and thank GOD for that.

GWB is good at the political game and he really hasn't started pounding Kerry. Maybe he sees something we don't. Maybe he wonders whether Kerry will even be the Dem's nominee. It is still early and Kerry could very well get "Torch"ed in more ways than one.

W has played these Dems like a fiddle and has rope-a-doped them so many times they are furious and besides themselves with rage. W has the history of his father's own bad experience and I firmly believe he has learned it.

As for Bush holding to his view of "religion of peace", I honestly don't believe that he believes that at all. He is quite aware of what he is dealing with in Islam and Muslims. He is exibiting good generalship and tactics. Divide and conquer. Neutralize the larger less hostile part and destroy the smaller radical part.

If and I say if, Iraqi democracy works out, the effect of freedom on that region will be enormous. Islam is antithetical to freedom. Islam is about control, force and coercion. If the human spirit can catch fire with this concept, Islam is dead.

30 posted on 06/01/2004 2:10:59 PM PDT by el_texicano (Liberals are the real Mind-Numbed Robots - No Brains, No Guts, No Character...Just hate)
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To: brownsfan
If al-Quaida uses Spain as their model...Americans will respond differently.

Why do so many FReepers believe this?

72 posted on 06/01/2004 4:14:35 PM PDT by Wolfstar (Does anyone know what the meaning of IS, is in Clinton-speak?)
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To: brownsfan
I'm afraid that the liberal left is driving the public to forget 9/11,

But the fight against Islam is going to take years and luckily for the world, the liberal left is a dying breed. Most of them are still 60's leftovers and haven't woken up to the fact that this is a new age. I think you don't actually meet the true liberal mindset anymore in anyone under 50 so there is hope.

78 posted on 06/01/2004 4:33:26 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: brownsfan

Don't worry, if there is one thing constant about terrorists, it's that they will always do the wrong thing.


116 posted on 06/01/2004 5:30:53 PM PDT by philetus (Keep doing what you always do and you'll keep getting what you always get)
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To: brownsfan

If one is to define the word "religion" in legal sense - like something mentioned , protected and covered by the 1st amendment to the United States Constitution, it would make perfect sense that in return the "religion" is to accept and protect, or at least, not oppose the underlying tenets of the protecting state.
Islam fails this condition with flying colors, starting from its rejection of separation of church and political state, and continuing to the body of islamic law (shariah). Therefore Islam ought not to be considered as a religion within the meaning of the 1st amendment (just my 2 cents worth)


129 posted on 06/01/2004 6:23:11 PM PDT by GSlob
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To: brownsfan

That is what I see, and I don't like it. Anyone care to correct me where I'm wrong?



you are not wrong.
HOWEVER... had we gone after S.A. the PUBLIC would have understood it better than our going after Iraq. 15/19 of the 9-11 "club" were not only islamics, they were S.A. nationals.

The truth is every arabislamist haven on the planet (about 22 of them) needs to be replaced with a wholly secular democracy that excludes religion from any aspect of governance. Islam is not a benevolent or peaceful religion as say buddhism or judaism and modern christianity and in fact is more of a repression mechanism for political conquest, than it is a faith in any sense of the word.

Islam is the enemy.
Conservative leadership is either afraid to admit it or unwilling to risk facing the truth publicly. Nobody that is intellectually honest beleives in a silent majority of peaceful muslims behind the scenes just waiting to get rid of the radicals...

one freeper put it to me this way not long ago...
"the 98 percent of islam is giving the peaceful 2 percent, a bad name!" What a shame...

The islamists that we fear, are only carrying out the commands of their mad prophet... and the instructions of his purloined "holy book."

The bush administration could do a LOT more to get the message out that Iraq WAS directly connected with 9-11. They could... but they don't.

and regardless of who says or does what in the mean time... the WOT has been politicized... forever. Democrats have seen to it that our will to win.. is not what it should be. It will probably take a few more "events" to strengthen our resolve, open the internment camps and get more atrocious in our assault of the religion of murder.


131 posted on 06/01/2004 6:24:39 PM PDT by Robert_Paulson2 (the madridification of our election is now officially underway.)
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