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To: Boot Hill
I have a future Uncle-in-law who was an American Airlines pilot of 31 years. He follows NTSB/FAA stories closely, and fully expected that they'd correctly rule American Airlines Flight 587 had it's tailplane ripped off due to a known design flaw that Airbus has been trying to downplay in the market.

He and others believe that Airbus cannot correct the flaw without a major redesign. Planes already in service cannot be retrofitted with the correction.

8 posted on 06/01/2004 1:27:59 PM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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To: The KG9 Kid

The vertical stabalizer came off.

After loss of rudder control, it went into a spin, the spin made it shed parts all over the streets below, and crash.

Rudder control is what keeps an airplane from spinning. (invented by the Wright Brothers to keep their airplane from spinning.)


15 posted on 06/01/2004 1:34:08 PM PDT by Dan(9698)
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To: The KG9 Kid
... a known design flaw ...

Composite/carbon fiber delamination?

16 posted on 06/01/2004 1:36:33 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (...and Freedom tastes of Reality)
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To: The KG9 Kid
He and others believe that Airbus cannot correct the flaw without a major redesign. Planes already in service cannot be retrofitted with the correction.

As I recall, the problem seemed to be that the rudder controls required a lot of force on the ground or at very low speeds. In flight, they were much more responsive. The co-pilot was not familar with the Airbus. It was his responsibility to operate the rudder foot pedals and to perform pre-flight checks on them. One theory was that when performing the pre-flight check-out he came to believe that the rudder required a lot of force. In flight, when he needed to operate the rudder he literally stepped on the control pedal and when the rudder over responded he jammed them in the opposite direction. It was classic example of an underdamped control system "hunting". The loop gain was too high and the time delay too long. After reading about the Gimli Glider, I sure wouldn't want to be in an Airbus when someone is attempting a dead stick landing.

27 posted on 06/01/2004 2:23:12 PM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Uday and Qusay are ead-day)
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