Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

To: captain albala

>>> This is not true. Why didn't serbs force albanians to get back to albania before the world war two, why didn't they do it after WW II, and why did they agree on more and more autonomy for Kosovo, untill Kosovo became de facto independant from Serbia inside of Yugoslavia? On the other hand, why did the Albanians commited genocide against Serbs in WW II, and why did they continue to fight partisans untill 1951, and why did they continue to opress Serbs all the time during Yugoslavia, untill Milosevic used it to seize the power? Why did Albanians staged drowning of three boys in March, using that fraud to attack those miserable people, Serbs in Kosovo, didn't albanians feel satisfaction to see Kosovo is theirs and Serbs have only their ghettos to live in? Couldn't Albanians allow Serbs to live in their ghettos, if nothing else? It's not strange then that people like getofmylawn conclude, "there can be no appeasement, we're claim all of our property if you're not satisfied even with 90% of it!"

The Serbs did indeed try to force Albanians out of Kosova before, during, and after WWII. And that was one of Vasa Cubrilovic’s main points, that the gradual methods the Serbs were using at the time were too slow and ineffective, that they had to do something drastic while they had the chance. But you have read none of that, you have read nothing about the Serbian atrocities as they ravaged through Kosova and North Albania. Either that or you choose to dismiss them, because they are not convenient to your nationalistic ideology. Instead you refer to propaganda that alledges all Albanians cooperated with the Nazis. You refer to the SS choosing to ignore that Albanians fought the Nazis and the Fascists as hard as any other Balkan nation, and had no more collaborationists than Serbia. Albania does in fact bear two distinctions from WWII; it was the only nation to get rid of the Germans without any Allied intervention, and it was one of few Europian nations where the Jewish population was larger at the end of the war than at the beginning.


>>> That's why Serbs had to flee Krajina, because they didn't revenge for Croatian genocide and centuries of opression, but wanted to make peace. Serbs lost many territories in Bosnia for not wanting to revenge for genocide and centuries of opression. In Herzegovina serbian priests were forcing Montenegrins not to revenge to muslims in 1918. And they didn't. And Serbs lost Kosovo for not wanting to revenge for genocide and opression.

This sense of victimization that you and all your fellow Serbs display is really quite annoying, because you relish in it and you use it to feed the hate you possess to the next generation, and worst of all it is based on myth, and historical inaccuracies and omissions. But each and every leader that comes into power in Serbia uses it to their own advantage, and so it never dies, it hovers right beneath the surface only to raise its ugly head at times like the 1990s. Even now it is waiting for a chance to explode onto the surface, and I dread that day because I see it coming, I see it in your words.

>>>You had everything in Kosovo during socialist Yugoslavia, but no, you wanted independence all the time.

Someone once said “Give me freedom or give me death”. Is desiring independence a bad thing? I don’t believe so, not as long as terrorist means are not used, and for all your claiming otherwise, Kosovars are not terrorists.

>>>So, if you don't want to fight for the land, why don't you all grab your things and return to Albania where you came from?

Sounds like what they told the Chams when they deported them to Turkey “why don't you all grab your things and return to Turkey where you came from?”, except there was only one thing wrong at the time, the Chams where standing where they always had, same for the Kosovars.

>>>I want to fight for the land, and you don't, so give me the land. How's about this? But no, you wanted Kosovo more then we did. Did. That's why your numbers in XX century, "under serbian rule of fear and terror", were increasing, and serbian decreasing.

You want to fight for the land, but the Kosovars are not going anywhere, so you will go and fight for Kosova and maybe retake military control of it. Now you either have the choice of implementing Vasa Cubrilovic’s plan or leaving the Kosovars (both Serb and Albanian) in dire and miserable condition. What is so beautiful and noble about that? Instead you could allow the Kosovars to have what they want and then require they fulfill the responsibilities that come with it. This seems like a much more rational choice.

>>>So, in order to avoid bloodshed, give us back what's ours, because you're men of peace, you don't want bloodshed. Enough with this. Huntington said it nicely. Land disputes can't be solved by discussion.

What you are talking about is not a land dispute it is aggression. The aggression you are rooting for, may or may not happen. If and when it does, I suspect that the Serbs will use the same “restraint” as previously, and knowing that alone will make people fight to defend their homes.

>>>I just have the problem with people breeching my rights. Be them Serbs or Canadians or Albanians.

Wow, that’s a good one. What rights of yours am I exactly breeching?. Are you referring to Serbia’s right to be the greatest nation on Earth, or the Serbs right to view everyone else in the Balkans as underlings, or maybe your right to rule over a land inhabited by people who want nothing to do with you

>>>. No, we use legends (and true events, also :-) to inspire us to continue our struggle for our rights.

I’m afraid in this case you are fighting to suppress those rights, rather than defend them.


18 posted on 06/02/2004 10:30:08 AM PDT by GeraldP ("Non-violence never solved anything." - Homer)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies ]


To: GeraldP; captain albala; kosta50; Seselj
This sense of victimization that you and all your fellow Serbs display is really quite annoying...

I guess you'd prefer us to smile as we're kicked in the head? While our churches are burned? While our neighbors are shot while working in their fields?

Oh, those annoying Serbs! They dare complain about Albanian hospitality!

Here's a fact to chew on: The Serb Army will return to Kosovo one day. Not today, maybe not tomorrow, but they will come back.

19 posted on 06/02/2004 10:45:04 AM PDT by FormerLib (It's the 99% of Mohammedans that make the other 1% look bad.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies ]

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article


FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson