Posted on 06/01/2004 8:51:58 AM PDT by zencat
U.S. manufacturing chugged to a full year of expansion in May, pushing factory hiring to its highest in 31 years, a survey released on Tuesday showed.
Ya, gotta have that high dollar coffee shop coffee. I guess that making coffee yourself at home for pennies and putting it in a thermos is beneth you.
CT is bankrupt? Thats news to me.
And it is not the governments job to spend money to provide you with a job.
A friend of mine delivers pizza as his sole source of income. He is 40 years old. He makes $8.00+ an hour in wage pay plus tips. He is making a lot of money doing it to. He loves it. Brings home a stack of cash each night in tips, and being cash, is able to hide some of it from his wife so he has play money.
Nice of you to change the subject.
The point is, there was NO major manufacturer because we all built up defense industries and companies that did civilian work were outsourced to Korea or Japan, like Naugatuck Rubber that made the rubber for Convese sneakers back in the early 70's, now overseas..
Now that all that is gone, the small shops are closing rapidly due to OUTSOURCING.
Dont tell me otherwise, I walk the streest looking for work all the time, and the 2 shops I went to this morning both are at a crawl, they only do prototype work because production work is not affordable here, it is all done in China! Both are down to one or two workers JOURNEYMEN machinists that are all in their 50's.
You must not work in manufacturing, that's all I can say.
I have gotten more than 4 Freepmails that prove my point, all from CT freepers who either are unemployed or own businesses that are failing because all the work is going overseas.
You guys keep defending the low payig jobs that are nothing more than SERVICE jobs, they are not jobs where something isproduced, but only a SERVICE is performed!
That's why you are all called FREE TRAITORS.
Wow, you are a moron, you know that?
Must be nice to have the $50 for the coffee maker to begin with, eh?
Then, the $20 for the coffee can from the supermarket
Then the money for the sugar
Then, the $20 for the thermos to hold it in...
What does all that add up to for the first purchase?...HHmmm...
People that are unemployed dont have to buy coffe to get to work, do they? SO I GUESS I AINT BUYING ANY NOW, AM I?
Aparently neither do you.
You guys keep defending the low payig jobs that are nothing more than SERVICE jobs, they are not jobs where something isproduced, but only a SERVICE is performed!
I perform 2 service jobs, neither of which is low paying. Both pay very well. Or do you contend that performing a service is not a real job?
That's why you are all called FREE TRAITORS.
So, because I perform several services that customers WANT and pay me to perform I am a traitor?
YTour friend has a job on the side, or he is lying, or he delivers to rich people.
I delivered Pizza, and no WAY did I make over $70 a night tips included! and that is the high average, I asked!
YES, you are a Free TRaitor!
You dont produce anytthing!
People like me went to college, paid our dues, and people like you end up making more money and have the jobs??
Something is wrong with that picture.
My coffee maker was $19. I also have a free one from Gevala.
Then, the $20 for the coffee can from the supermarket
I buy a 52 oz tub of Folgers for $6 (often on sale for $3.99!)
Then the money for the sugar
Sugar is beyond cheap. I think the last pound I bought cost $0.69. Though I drink my coffee black and no sugar.
Then, the $20 for the thermos to hold it in...
The thermos I have I paid $4 for and it works just fine.
You forgot to mention filters. What do you pay for those? I buy 100 #4 cone filters for $3.29.
Wrong. But hey, after several days of talking with you I have come to realize that it is your bad attitude that is preventing you from gaining employment. It is clear in your writing, and I am sure it is clear to anyone interviewing you.
You dont produce anytthing!
While maybe technically true that I "produce" anything as in a tangible product you can touch, feel, smell, taste, and hold, that doesn't mean what I do isn't a job and isn't in demand.
Production of a physical "product" is not what makes something a job or a needed and worthwhile business.
People like me went to college, paid our dues, and people like you end up making more money and have the jobs??
I did go to college (even graduated!), and I have more than paid my dues. The money I make I earn through busting my hump, providing services that people want, and satisfying them so they return and send others to me.
Something is wrong with that picture.
Ya, your attitude and belief that you are owed something, particualary whats in the wallets of your fellow Americans.
Nope.
he is lying
Nope
or he delivers to rich people
Some of them are, and a lot of them are college kids, young people, and mexicans.
And that's why you are called UNEMPLOYED.
If yes, why?
If not, why have you repeatedly stated such?
If you think I talk like this on a job interview, you are nuts! :)
Plus, I havent HAD more than 6 interviews in the last 3 years anyways!
So, there goes YOUR theory! :)
2 interviews a year! It is long past time that you embarked upon a career change.
I have an ASME, 6 years experience as a designer/draftsman
I have 15 years as a technician/machine mechanic/test rig operator
I am enrolled for an ASEE for the career change and also to complete my BS when I combine the two degrees
I have done so many differetn things, i can jump in and fake it until I make it, but I am not given the chance.
I literally have had oless than 6 interviews in the last 3 years, and every resume expert I speak to saysit aint my resume.
I also try to explain the 14 jobs honestly: That I choose to work instead of collect if it pays more than unemployment so I can get off it. But the resume is getting way too long!
And I Dont get Starbucks coffee...unless I am working and need to do homework! I end up tutoring all the kids in class! Circuits one was the toughest class, that one I had to ask questions myself from other kids.
Any work is a real job, but there is no way Service work is a producing factor in an economy.
You are dependant on others not doing for themselves for the most part.
Producing jobs create the means to do for yourself or improve your position, even to create stuff for a service industry to use in their service.
The only serice jobs that 'might' be considered producing are those that are too complex for the average person to perform themselves...like carpentry in my case! (I cant make a doghouse!)
Not doing for themselves? There are only so many hours in the day, not everyone can do everything themselves. And some needed services can not be done by oneself.
Producing jobs create the means to do for yourself or improve your position, even to create stuff for a service industry to use in their service.
In other words, producing the needed stuff for them to be traitors!
The only serice jobs that 'might' be considered producing are those that are too complex for the average person to perform themselves...like carpentry in my case!
Carpentry, while providing a service, is a production job. At the end of the day there is a tangible product that has been produced.
It sounds like it's time to leave Connecticut...
"it is like you never had to look for a job!"
I had to look for a job in 1978 when the economy sucked canal water ten times worse than the average -to-normal economy we have now.
I moved halfway across the country because I wanted to work in my field. If I had had to, I would have asked my family for help. An advance, temporary rooming, whatever.
Prior to that, I had already lived on beans for a couple years extra because as I reached the culmination of my graduate studies, I realized to my chagrin that the job I was training for had been monopolized by minorities, and as a white male I was dead meat.
Somehow I was able to network across the country to find a job without having to travel, before the era of the internet, the fax, the cellphone, when even the PC itself was a rudimentary novelty to us non-geeks. (I used to know BASIC and how to count in hex!)
One thing which got me through a rough patch was service in the Army Reserve. They paid real money, although not a helluva lot, but it was better than welfare cheese.
You said you couldn't find a job in CAD so you went and learned five more languages for CAD.
Here's a clue: I have a friend who wrenches for a Ford dealer and makes over 50,000 dollars a year. And he's no 60-year-old foreman either. His foreman makes close to 80K.
Best wishes on your new career, whatever it turns out to be.
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