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To: jern

This "good man" is about to sell out our sovereignty and has spent the last four years positioning himself to ram the FTAA treaty through in his second term. He now has the "Fast Track" ability.

Conservatives who have put on the brakes, such as myself, have no confidence that those that assume themselves to be conservative will ever organize and attempt to block this coming FTAA fiasco, it makes it even more impossible to vote for the man.

It's like watching a train go off a cliff. Is not voting the answer? There is no answer that will work. No matter who wins the fat lady sings, "Bye, bye, Miss American Pie".


41 posted on 06/01/2004 7:23:33 AM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: MissAmericanPie
Odd, most of the "Conservatives" I've read, are decidedly in favor of free and open markets....And when I peruse some of the anti FTAA sites, I get such communist drivel as

" the FTAA is yet another example of the kind of free-market fundamentalism that has created a global race to the bottom that erodes environmental protection, workers' livelihoods, and human rights. If you think NAFTA has been a disaster for working families and the environment in the US, Canada, and Mexico, this will be far worse.

As far as I am aware, the US Economy employs More People, at a higher standard of living then we did before Nafta. (SoL= % of GDP per capita....)

42 posted on 06/01/2004 7:28:52 AM PDT by hobbes1 (Hobbes1TheOmniscient® "I know everything so you don't have to" ;)
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To: MissAmericanPie
back to your comment about Reagan

It's conservative lore that Reagan the icon cut taxes, while George H.W. Bush the renegade raised them. As Stockman recalls, "No one was authorized to talk about tax increases on Ronald Reagan's watch, no matter what kind of tax, no matter how justified it was" Yet raising taxes is exactly what Reagan did. He did not always instigate those hikes or agree to them willingly--but he signed off on them. One year after his massive tax cut, Reagan agreed to a tax increase to reduce the deficit that restored fully one-third of the previous year's reduction. (In a bizarre bit of self-deception, Reagan, who never came to terms with this episode of ideological apostasy, persuaded himself that the three-year, $100 billion tax hike--the largest since World War II--was actually "tax reform" that closed loopholes in his earlier cut and therefore didn't count as raising taxes.)

Faced with looming deficits, Reagan raised taxes again in 1983 with a gasoline tax and once more in 1984, this time by $50 billion over three years, mainly through closing tax loopholes for business. Despite the fact that such increases were anathema to conservatives--and probably cost Reagan's successor, George H.W. Bush, reelection--Reagan raised taxes a grand total of four times just between 1982-84.

This record flummoxes the best efforts of today's Reagan hagiographers to explain away. Peter Wallison, for instance, after proclaiming that Reagan "stayed the course against changes in his economic plan," later dismisses the president's tax increases as "a modest rollback" that "seems to have been the result" of his accepting a Democratic promise to cut spending by twice that amount. (Whatever happened to "Trust, but verify"?)

Reagan continued these "modest rollbacks" in his second term. The historic Tax Reform Act of 1986, though it achieved the supply side goal of lowering individual income tax rates, was a startlingly progressive reform. The plan imposed the largest corporate tax increase in history--an act utterly unimaginable for any conservative to support today. Just two years after declaring, "there is no justification" for taxing corporate income, Reagan raised corporate taxes by $120 billion over five years and closed corporate tax loopholes worth about $300 billion over that same period. In addition to broadening the tax base, the plan increased standard deductions and personal exemptions to the point that no family with an income below the poverty line would have to pay federal income tax. Even at the time, conservatives within Reagan's administration were aghast.

44 posted on 06/01/2004 7:31:49 AM PDT by jern
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