Posted on 05/31/2004 4:51:50 PM PDT by wagglebee
80 rounds!! Just how many terrorists are we expecting on this plane?
Excuse me but it's already occurring. Many of my pilots are traveling hot.
No TSA, no metal detectors, no JBT's patrolling the airports, no strip searches, no secret "no fly" lists.
And no terrorist attacks.
2 pistols. 6 mags at 15 rd ea, 80-90 rds. Not that much in
shootout with 4-5 bad guys.
Sounds like grist for another Leslie Nielsen movie. Sustained firefight with terrorists on an airliner in flight; pistols, M4s, SAWs, .50,s, grenades, light antiarmor weapons, and calls for close air support- vectored in on a particular seat and row. :-)
9MM pistol with a 15 round magazine and one in the chamber. Two spare magazines means an additional 30 rounds. That's 46 rounds a person. Less if the pistol is chambered in .40 Smith and Wesson.
I had the same conversation with a police officer about concealed carry... He told me that MO currently allows open carry of a handgun, and that should be enough. My response was that the fact that there are a few "good guys" carrying weapons among the unarmed population would be reason for the bad guys to worry, and possibly move on to easier hunting grounds. More importantly, what if there's a couple of bad guys who want to get my gun. Just as the Air Marshall said, if they spot you, you are at a disadvantage.
Mark
Air Marshals
:-)
Indeed. I've been told that on an El Al flight they wear a uniform. Seems to work for them. Also, the air marshals can expect the assistance of everyone on the plane who has a brain.
4-5 hijackers vs 2 armed men+ flight crew(with taser) + the able-bodied passengers + Threepwood!:) = It should be ok.
The "Secret Service Look" is as identifiable as any uniform. However, it is not illegal for a person to buy a dark suit, sunglasses, an ear-piece and stuff a salami under his suit jacket, and imitate the "Secret Service Look" quite successfully. IMHO, this is an inherent weakness in our Secret Service protection schemes. The Secret Service protection details should be uniformed, since they stand out like sore thumbs anyway. That way it could be made illegal to impersonate a Secret Service Agent by copying the uniform.
An additional benefit is that a certain Junior Senator would not be able to hire thugs, have them masquerade as Secret Service Agents, and have them beat people up on parade routes and the like. Just as a for-instance...
It's happening about as fast as glaciers are going to re-enter Massachusetts.
The armed pilot program is designed NOT to produce more than a handful of armed pilots and put them throught the wringer so nobody else volunteers.
That would only serve to remind the peasants that Air Marshals are for flights with High Government Officials on board.
You are on your own. But rest assured the Assistant Secretary of Housing and Urban Development won't be crashing into a Pennsylvannia hill. Feel better now?
When I see the pilot of the plane is traveling hot then I will travel with him.
Not before.
"Great idea, but unfortunately, President Bush opposes the idea, so it ain't gonna' happen........"
When and where did he make a statement about this?
Or was in the form of a press release? When and where?
Sig P229 chambered for 357 Sig.
"Who would wear a suit coat to Hawaii?"
Jack Lord always wore a suit in "Hawaii Five-O!"
"Book-em, Dan-o!" ;)
hmm keep the guns in the cockpit secret. so people still hijack planes. whats a few dead civillians if the cockpit is protected
But then he took an oath to "faithfully execute the law", and congress passed a law almost two years ago to arm pilots. I think we're up to 600 out of 100,000 now. So one has to make some inferences...
TSA Drags Its Feet On Arming Pilots: Congress voted last year to protect Americans in the air
Well then, I was doubly wrong. We're up to around 600 armed pilots out of 100,000 now. At this rate, pilots should be fully armed in another 150 years or so...
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