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Russia Joins Bush's Drive Against WMD's
Yahoo! ^ | 5/31/2004 | Oleg Shchedrov

Posted on 05/31/2004 12:43:19 PM PDT by cdbull23

MOSCOW (Reuters) - Russia cast aside its doubts Monday to join a U.S.-led alliance of countries prepared to board ships and raid suspect factories in a crackdown against weapons of mass destruction.

Moscow said it had become the 15th core member of President Bush (news - web sites)'s Proliferation Security Initiative (PSI), designed to stop such arms ending up in states viewed with distrust by Washington, such as North Korea (news - web sites) and Iran.

"The threat of proliferation of weapons of mass destruction is global and accordingly requires a global response," the Foreign Ministry said in a statement. "We are sure that we can cope with the problem only through a collective effort."

Russia, which basically supports stopping any illegal trade in nuclear, chemical and biological weapons-related materials and missiles, initially had strong reservations about Bush's initiative, put forward a year ago.

Russian experts expressed fears a right to intercept suspicious vessels could give a legal role of global policeman to the United States, which has the strongest naval presence across the world.

Another concern was the PSI could be used to hamper Russia's commercial interests because it trades with many countries at odds with Washington, such as Iran or Syria.

Russia announced its decision a week before a summit of the Group of Eight major industrial nations at Sea Island, Georgia, where the PSI is going to be high on the agenda. Russia was the last G8 member to join the initiative.

U.S. officials have said Russia joining the PSI would have extra political importance because it could inspire another major power, China, to become a core member.

Russian officials had said after talks with U.S. Undersecretary of State John Bolton in Moscow earlier this month that Russia still had some unanswered questions.

The Foreign Ministry said Russia would contribute to the PSI as long as its actions did not violate international law or its own legislation.

"We view the PSI as a supplement rather than replacement to the existing nonproliferation mechanisms," the ministry said.

"We assume that actions within this initiative should not and will not create obstacles to legal economic, scientific and technical cooperation."


TOPICS: Breaking News; Extended News; Front Page News; Russia; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: allies; allyrussia; bush; proliferation; russia; waronterrorism; wmd; wmds
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eh...confusing, no?
1 posted on 05/31/2004 12:43:20 PM PDT by cdbull23
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To: cdbull23

There goes the Democrap's, Bush needs a consensus drum beat.


3 posted on 05/31/2004 12:48:46 PM PDT by Flint
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Not confusing at all - the neocons out of favor now wanted back a year ago to do this but in such a way so to make these other countries subordinate to American power rather than feeling they were sovreign allies. The neocon approach - we are in charge - we say jump and all you have to answer is how high - is the reason why the Iraq war coalition was not as inclusive as it could have been- mostly because the neocons refused to allow any other countries any influence in post Saddam Iraqi development.

It took a year for us to convince the Russians we were not setting them up with a lie like the neocons (under Clinton) set up the Russians in Kosovo where we promised them influence and then shafted them. Another Clinton legacy (neocons were in his administration too) that cost America dearly.

4 posted on 05/31/2004 12:51:04 PM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: cdbull23
Moscow said it had become the 15th core member of President Bush (news - web sites)'s Proliferation Security Initiative (PSI), designed to stop such arms ending up in states viewed with distrust by Washington, such as North Korea (news - web sites) and Iran.

What's in it for them?

5 posted on 05/31/2004 12:52:11 PM PDT by EGPWS
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To: taran

Russia had nothing to do with Iraq's nuclear program - that was Western Europe - i.e. France - Germany and the British - and yes - even America.


6 posted on 05/31/2004 12:52:13 PM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: cdbull23

I realize that many Freepers disagree but Russia could be our most valuable ally in the war on terror. The simple facts are that the cold war is over and Russia "gets it" when it comes to terrorism.


7 posted on 05/31/2004 12:58:30 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Don't vote, president Kerry will thank you for it.)
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To: cripplecreek
Right! Very good news, they are becoming a part of the Connected World
8 posted on 05/31/2004 1:03:05 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The terrorists and their supporters declared war on the United States - and war is what they got!!!!)
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To: All
Connected World is a better phrase than Globalism.

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Globalism is to get more of the world to have freedom.

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9 posted on 05/31/2004 1:04:28 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The terrorists and their supporters declared war on the United States - and war is what they got!!!!)
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To: cripplecreek

Al qaeda has been playing hell into the russians in chechenya.

It's time russia joined us in the war on terror as well.

we both face threat from the same common enemy, islam.

Russia together with america will bring together the might of the world's largest militaries to bear on the islamic
world and break its back.

Russia needs money and we need troops to fight the islamic world.

This seems like a match made in heaven for us.

Bringing russia and china into the war on terror are essential to isolate the islamic world, sanction it and then send it into the stone age to rob them of the technological might to pursue WMD, and the economic might to sponsorterror, field armies or have a political voice.

It won't be long before china's islamic minority gives that country their chechenya.

I'd say we need to setup a new terror military command. Where all non islamic countries affected by terrror would
contribute troops to it and then that force will be employed to counter the threat worldwide.


10 posted on 05/31/2004 1:25:46 PM PDT by jerrydavenport
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To: taran

The cold war has been over for a decade now.

Russia and america have been ravaged by islamic terror for over a decade now.

Together russia and america are the most resource rich countries in the world. We no longer would need middle eastern oil.

Russia and america together also wield the mightiest war machine the world has ever seen.

we can finally break the islamic world's back now.


11 posted on 05/31/2004 1:29:11 PM PDT by jerrydavenport
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To: taran
Very confusing. In light of its dogged, unrelenting assistance to Iran and its program of building nuclear weapons, I wonder what Russia's strategy is, or if it even has one.

One word: Chechnya

12 posted on 05/31/2004 1:32:34 PM PDT by kabar
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For years, the muslims had been playing hell into both america and russia, while islamists in the russian and american intelligence cadres were busy sowing differences between america and russia.

The cold war has been over for a decade.

we have no differences and no clash of interest with russia anymore.

On the contrary, we have a very strong convergence of interests, since the muslims have been playing hell into both russia and america.

The entire civilized world today faces a new savage, barbaric enemy, the islamic world.

No one knows this enemy better than the russians and the americans who have been at the receiving end of islamic
terror for over a decade now.

Intelligence co-operation between russia and america again could be vital to winning the war on terror.


13 posted on 05/31/2004 1:33:48 PM PDT by jerrydavenport
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To: cdbull23

BTTT


14 posted on 05/31/2004 1:34:45 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: Libertarianize the GOP

fyi


15 posted on 05/31/2004 1:36:12 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The terrorists and their supporters declared war on the United States - and war is what they got!!!!)
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To: jerrydavenport

Where all non islamic countries affected by terrror would
contribute troops to it and then that force will be employed to counter the threat worldwide.


It sounds like a sweet plan but I just wonder how Israel will fit into this. Israel has been fighting terrorism longer than anyone and they don't seem to get slack from anybody for defending themselves except the U.S.


16 posted on 05/31/2004 1:36:47 PM PDT by LoudRepublicangirl (loudrepublicangirl)
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To: EGPWS
"What's in it for them [Russia]?

A front row seat at which to undermine any incoming proof of their own involvement in procuring WMDs for Iraq.

Russians, if nothing else, are NOT known for their tact.

17 posted on 05/31/2004 1:40:53 PM PDT by F16Fighter
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To: cdbull23

No, not confusing. Don't trust them. Evidence exists that France, Germany and Russia supported Iraq, and stalled on invading Iraq. Didn't Russia have 'military advisors' in Iraq until just days before our troops headed to Baghdad?

Nor do I hear the President referring to him any longer as 'Putie' or any other pet names. Seems 'Putie' may have been exposed.


18 posted on 05/31/2004 1:47:04 PM PDT by ZOTnot (I'll take the side of Israel. Woe to its enemies.)
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To: cdbull23

Now if we can get them to send a few mirotvortsy (peacekeepers), like Ukraine.

19 posted on 05/31/2004 1:47:47 PM PDT by struwwelpeter
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To: cdbull23

No, not confusing. Don't trust them. Evidence exists that France, Germany and Russia supported Iraq, and stalled on invading Iraq. Didn't Russia have 'military advisors' in Iraq until just days before our troops headed to Baghdad?

Nor do I hear the President referring to him any longer as 'Putie' or any other pet names. Seems 'Putie' may have been exposed.


20 posted on 05/31/2004 1:48:20 PM PDT by ZOTnot (I'll take the side of Israel. Woe to its enemies.)
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