Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Are they coming to draft your daughters?
Vision Forum ^ | 05-28-04 | Doug Phillips

Posted on 05/31/2004 10:12:50 AM PDT by Kentucky

click here to read article


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 61-8081-100101-120 ... 141-158 next last
To: tiamat

Today's enlisted people know in advance what will be required, including vaccinations. If birth control is mandatory, a female enlistee would give informed consent to medication at enlistment. Disobedience at a later date is a different matter.

BTW, why the assumption that enlisted people, male or female, lack sexual self control? Many people are perfectly able to control themselves, particularly if they are married. Why force those individuals to take drugs they do not need?


81 posted on 05/31/2004 2:47:29 PM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 77 | View Replies]

To: Canticle_of_Deborah

I didn't say ALL of them are having sex.

But a lot of them DO. And it's not just the enlisted . The Occifers do it , too.

It's a problem.


82 posted on 05/31/2004 2:53:22 PM PDT by tiamat ("Just a Bronze-Age Gal, Trapped in a Techno-World!")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 81 | View Replies]

To: tiamat

Do you understand that when they are talking about a draft they are talking about sending you into combat involuntarily?


83 posted on 05/31/2004 3:05:55 PM PDT by Tribune7
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: Tribune7

I do and not only do I think it's insane, I don't think it will pass.


84 posted on 05/31/2004 3:09:51 PM PDT by tiamat ("Just a Bronze-Age Gal, Trapped in a Techno-World!")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 83 | View Replies]

To: tiamat

I hope it doesn't either.


85 posted on 05/31/2004 3:11:37 PM PDT by Tribune7
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 84 | View Replies]

To: Tribune7

We can keep our fingers crossed.

I need to shut this down.

I have dogs and burgers and a grill to man!

Have a great Memorial Day!


86 posted on 05/31/2004 3:17:26 PM PDT by tiamat ("Just a Bronze-Age Gal, Trapped in a Techno-World!")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 85 | View Replies]

To: tiamat

You too. :-)


87 posted on 05/31/2004 3:22:29 PM PDT by Tribune7
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 86 | View Replies]

To: farmfriend

Equality at work?

Are men and women interchangeable? Can men give birth? Can women compete against men in sports that depend on muscle strength?

The myth of "equality" of the sexes needs to be debunked.


88 posted on 05/31/2004 3:27:45 PM PDT by DLfromthedesert (I was elected in AZ as an alt delegate to the Convention. I'M GOING TO NY)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

Comment #89 Removed by Moderator

To: Milligan

WE ARE MAKING America's Military into a agency of the United Nations.


90 posted on 05/31/2004 3:36:44 PM PDT by take
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 56 | View Replies]

Comment #91 Removed by Moderator

Comment #92 Removed by Moderator

To: tiamat
The fact is, a petite, 110 lb woman CANNOT hump a pack the way her 200 lb, 6'2" male counterpart can. Nor can she handle some of the same equipment he does.

The problem with the above is that your argument is predicated upon size and strength rather than gdender. When I joined the military I was 5'1" (still am) and 105 pounds (I wish). However, I happen to be male. My wife on the other hand is an amazon at 6'.

If we take your objection above seriously, it would be more logical and consistant to place serious size and stature requirements rather than gender requirements.

93 posted on 05/31/2004 3:55:05 PM PDT by Melas
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: TheLurkerX

Again, you're problem is gender related. There are plenty of men in the military who don't weight 145 pounds.


94 posted on 05/31/2004 3:56:04 PM PDT by Melas
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 25 | View Replies]

To: Melas

Hhhhhmmmm.

I had NOT considered that.

Well, anyway "Thank You for your service!"


95 posted on 05/31/2004 4:00:55 PM PDT by tiamat ("Just a Bronze-Age Gal, Trapped in a Techno-World!")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 93 | View Replies]

To: Kentucky
It is ridiculous to think that a 145lb woman can carry my husband out of a burning building or fight in hand to hand combat with the enemy. For political correctness we are ending up with women in dangerous places putting the lives of others on the line.

Perhaps it is. However, let's be clear, A male, United States Marine, may be 4'10" tall and weigh a scant 96 pounds. How much easier do you think it will be for that marine than a 145 pound woman?

A female Marine by comparison must also stand at least 4'10" tall, but she may weigh as little as 90 pounds.

96 posted on 05/31/2004 4:02:45 PM PDT by Melas
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 33 | View Replies]

To: tiamat

Well, along the lines of what I said, if it is proven that women in some instances exhibit better skills in certian jobs, then it would stand to reason that they should be given those jobs. My main goal is fielding the best possible force. IMO, the well trained and physically honed man being best to stand the rigors in the field, takes nothing away from a women who may be able to multi-task better than men in another sector of the military. Anotherwords, this isn't purely a 'keep them home where they belong' issue for me.


97 posted on 05/31/2004 4:27:16 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: farmfriend

Thank you for your response, feeling as you did about my comment and their unrelated nature, in your terms. I do however have to disagree that they are unrelated. Look, we can't draft women in equal numbers and insert them willy-nilly in the military. IMO that would degrade our force capabilities to the point that our military would be far inferior to it's full potential. This being my thought on the issue, how can I separate the issue, as you seem to have indicated you would have.

Anything near parity in the military and our military would cease to be the fighting force it is today. At least that's my opinion.


98 posted on 05/31/2004 4:32:34 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: DoughtyOne

DoughtyOne wrote:


Well, along the lines of what I said, if it is proven that women in some instances exhibit better skills in certian jobs, then it would stand to reason that they should be given those jobs. My main goal is fielding the best possible force. IMO, the well trained and physically honed man being best to stand the rigors in the field, takes nothing away from a women who may be able to multi-task better than men in another sector of the military. Anotherwords, this isn't purely a 'keep them home where they belong' issue for me.





I agree.


99 posted on 05/31/2004 4:34:42 PM PDT by tiamat ("Just a Bronze-Age Gal, Trapped in a Techno-World!")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 97 | View Replies]

To: MotherofTen

Well, I join you in your rejection of this idea. Drafting women would be counter-productive IMO. I do not see men serving in the military as them being the throw away gender. While I do think society has discounted the importance of men in today's society, the military and a draft would not be where I'd start the rectification of that.

Giving fathers equal footing with mothers when it comes to parental rights would be my first step. A mother would have to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt, and this would be almost impossible to do, to get sole custody of children. Fathers play an critical part in their children's upbringing. Neither the father or mother should be able to bad-mouth the other. And if it came down to it, I'd consider that grounds to remove rights from the offending party.

Joint custody would be almost universal, and neither parent would have the right to pack the kids up and move away until those children were of age.


100 posted on 05/31/2004 4:40:24 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 61-8081-100101-120 ... 141-158 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson