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To: sauropod
This guy has just lost his eternal life. He'd better enjoy this one.
Peter denied Christ 3 times and received forgiveness.

9 posted on 05/31/2004 9:09:30 AM PDT by DallasMike
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To: DallasMike
I believe that was for a specific purpose, to fulfill a prophesy that Jesus had made.

If you or I denied Christ before men, I don't think that the result of the special case you cite would apply to us.

64 posted on 05/31/2004 9:27:54 AM PDT by sauropod (Paleo-cons make better lovers)
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To: DallasMike
Peter denied Christ 3 times and received forgiveness.

That was before Peter was indwelt by the Holy Spirit who gives us power to be Christ's witnesses; it was before he had entered into the fulness of salvation.

The rest of the story is in DocRock's quote. "Matthew 10:32-33 "Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will I confess before my Father which is in heaven. But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven." Like Doc, that was the first thing that leapt to mind when I saw the headline. Like Doc, I was very sad to read this.

170 posted on 05/31/2004 10:06:16 AM PDT by GretchenM (No military in the history of the world has fought so hard and so often for the freedom of others.-W)
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To: DallasMike
Peter denied Christ 3 times and received forgiveness.

Exactly. I think what the man did is forgivable. It's not like he's out there regularly preaching the non-existence or non-divinity of Christ.

262 posted on 05/31/2004 10:53:47 AM PDT by Puddleglum (Defy the media elite - vote Bush in 2004!)
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To: DallasMike

"This guy has just lost his eternal life. He'd better enjoy this one."

"Peter denied Christ 3 times and received forgiveness."

That was my thought too. Those who would call this cowardice: Search your heart, would you be brave enough to become a Christian martyr in such a circumstance?


390 posted on 05/31/2004 1:06:38 PM PDT by WOSG (Peace through Victory! Iraq victory, W victory, American victory!)
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To: DallasMike
This guy has just lost his eternal life. He'd better enjoy this one.

Peter denied Christ 3 times and received forgiveness.

Excellent point!!! I for one don't know if I wouldn't have done the same thing given the same situation.

449 posted on 05/31/2004 2:25:13 PM PDT by YankeeReb
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To: DallasMike

Yes and Christ himself had to restore Peter by questioning him three times. Dont exalt this Jordanian to Peter's status...he was already an apostle.

The Word is clear on this subject.


490 posted on 05/31/2004 4:44:47 PM PDT by VaBthang4 ("He who watches over Israel neither slumbers nor sleeps")
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To: DallasMike

"This guy has just lost his eternal life. He'd better enjoy this one."
"Peter denied Christ 3 times and received forgiveness."

Excellent response. Its very easy for us to sit back and judge, but if "we" were in the same position, or if a family member had a gun pointed to their head, etc, it might not be so easy.


673 posted on 06/01/2004 10:44:18 AM PDT by diamond6
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To: DallasMike

and Rahab lied about the two spies sent by Joshua... and they let her hide them out...


719 posted on 06/02/2004 5:12:41 PM PDT by latina4dubya
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