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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

There are people on this earth who would have testified to their Faith in the same situation. Tha idea that God will view them the same way He will view this poor guy is ludicrous.

Peter was Peter. He served God and was used by God. (What was his death like, by the way?)The degree of his remorse for offending in known only to God and is the basis for forgivness or damnation. That's the upper hand God has: He KNOWS who you are and he knows your motives.

One thing is certain: Deny God when it suits you and you had better not rationalize it the way people tend to try to do. "If you are ashamed of ME before men I will be ashamed of YOU before my Father".

Over the years I have considered this question--what would I do in a situation like this guy in the article--and instinct tells me he did the wrong thing. That of course doesn't tell me what I would do but I DO know what is right and what is wrong. God help this guy.


112 posted on 05/31/2004 9:42:26 AM PDT by TalBlack ("Tal, no song means anything without someone else....")
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To: TalBlack

How do you know that God wasn't using this jordanian Christian? If he was not feeling guilty (OK, I'd like to think the best) would he have told his story of lying? Also, his friend - the Muslim covered for him.

Sure, he lied about following Jesus. For all we know, this experience will help him stand tall on his beliefs or if he was a Christian in name only, perhaps he will learn more about it and begin to follow it.

The bottomline is it got me thinking about what I would do. I consider myself a decent Christian (new Catholic). I have a lot of room for growth and I struggle daily with having God in the center of my life. I have to admit, in this situation, I am not sure I would of told the truth unless I knew that my death would actually mean something. Also, if I was with a muslim, me not following along with the "out" I would of had could of jeopardized someone else. It just makes you wonder. Could God be using this situation to get us thinking and preparing for the same thing?

There will be a time when we're tested and I trust that when that time comes, I'll have the courage to speak my heart. However, if your heart is true, does it matter to speak the truth on deaf ears? The terrorist's don't care about anything but killing non muslim's. My death would just be another number-- I don't get the martydom thing unless your actually standing up. How one can stand up to someone holding a AK47 at your head is beyond me, I'd rather live and use the rest of my life to defeat them (fanatics) and spread gospel then just die b/c I won't save myself.

If your heart is true, then it's true.

Just my thoughts. In's God's time, he'll judge. Let us take this and learn from it. Prepare b/c the time will come where we could be faced with the same choices.


653 posted on 06/01/2004 7:58:46 AM PDT by tray-sea
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