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Christian lied about faith to survive Saudi siege
Reuters ^ | 31 May 2004 14:43:21 GMT | Samia Nakhoul

Posted on 05/31/2004 9:00:49 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

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To: evets

We all know what Peter did: being human, his fear prompted him to lie and "deny" being a follower of Jesus. He then went and begged forgiveness (important step for a human).

Being a true believer, forgiveness was granted and today he sits at Jesus' right hand in heaven.


61 posted on 05/31/2004 9:27:10 AM PDT by craig_eddy
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To: Ragirl

And wasn't he used greatly after that also, giving testimony at the temple shortly thereafter, and many were converted, like 3,000 or something? So he was not only forgiven, but greatly used? In fact, all throughout the New Testament, isn't it shown how many great men and women (and remember the prostitute in the OT who hid Israel and lied to the enemy) committed great sins and were still greatly used? I thought that was a main theme of the New Testament, Grace and Forgiveness.


62 posted on 05/31/2004 9:27:16 AM PDT by Lijahsbubbe
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

It's the proper spelling.
So what's the story, really... ?


63 posted on 05/31/2004 9:27:53 AM PDT by traumer
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To: DallasMike
I believe that was for a specific purpose, to fulfill a prophesy that Jesus had made.

If you or I denied Christ before men, I don't think that the result of the special case you cite would apply to us.

64 posted on 05/31/2004 9:27:54 AM PDT by sauropod (Paleo-cons make better lovers)
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To: Physicist
Just a hit-and-run to stir the pot.)

I'm chuckling here. Funny!

65 posted on 05/31/2004 9:28:10 AM PDT by Lijahsbubbe
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To: Bluntpoint

The reverse is also true.


66 posted on 05/31/2004 9:28:26 AM PDT by Delta 21 (MKC USCG -ret)
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To: Delta 21

This guy has just lost his eternal life. He'd better enjoy this one.


What happened to Judge not lest ye be judged or let he who is without sin cast the first stone? I think God expects us to be human.


67 posted on 05/31/2004 9:28:41 AM PDT by LoudRepublicangirl (loudrepublicangirl)
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To: sauropod

I thought you could deny Christ three times before the cock crows and still become a Saint! Must have misread the Bible on that one.


68 posted on 05/31/2004 9:29:01 AM PDT by SubMareener
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To: Bluntpoint

lol


69 posted on 05/31/2004 9:29:02 AM PDT by wardaddy (This is it. We either win and prevail or we lose and get tossed into that dustbin W mentioned!)
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To: sauropod

If you could loose eternal life, then it wouldnt be eternal would it ?


70 posted on 05/31/2004 9:29:23 AM PDT by dartuser
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To: SheLion

You say he is going to hell, yet ignore that Peter did the same thing.



71 posted on 05/31/2004 9:29:41 AM PDT by inflation (Cuba = BAD, China = Good? Why, should not both be treated the way Cuba is?)
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To: dandelion
You misunderstand. I was not "condemning."

What the Jordanian decided to do is very sad.

72 posted on 05/31/2004 9:29:46 AM PDT by sauropod (Paleo-cons make better lovers)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
mutilation

Spell checker says that is OK.

By golly, spell checker DOES say it's ok!!! 

73 posted on 05/31/2004 9:30:05 AM PDT by SheLion (Please register to vote! We can't afford to be silent.)
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To: Lijahsbubbe
And wasn't he used greatly after that also, giving testimony at the temple shortly thereafter, and many were converted, like 3,000 or something? So he was not only forgiven, but greatly used? In fact, all throughout the New Testament, isn't it shown how many great men and women (and remember the prostitute in the OT who hid Israel and lied to the enemy) committed great sins and were still greatly used? I thought that was a main theme of the New Testament, Grace and Forgiveness.

I agree! Thankyou!

74 posted on 05/31/2004 9:30:38 AM PDT by Ragirl (Vote in '04 ! Those who sit on their hands end up with poop on them.)
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To: traumer
See this:

BIN LADEN CUT-THROATS

75 posted on 05/31/2004 9:30:48 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The terrorists and their supporters declared war on the United States - and war is what they got!!!!)
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To: RaceBannon

I hope that God will give me the strength if i ever have to face that kind of a situation.


76 posted on 05/31/2004 9:31:35 AM PDT by sauropod (Paleo-cons make better lovers)
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To: isthisnickcool

If he didn't lie and told the truth of his Christianity, he would be in heaven as a martyr.

I suppose that life on earth here was more appealing at the time. :o(


77 posted on 05/31/2004 9:31:35 AM PDT by It's me
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To: sauropod
I think that is a deliberate malicious headline.
78 posted on 05/31/2004 9:32:17 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The terrorists and their supporters declared war on the United States - and war is what they got!!!!)
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To: inflation

Here is the first-hand account of how Jesus deals with those who deny Him before men...

14 This is now the third time that Jesus shewed himself to his disciples, after that he was risen from the dead.
15 So when they had dined, Jesus saith to Simon Peter, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me more than these? He saith unto him, Yea, Lord; thou knowest that I love thee. He saith unto him, Feed my lambs.
16 He saith to him again the second time, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me? He saith unto him, Yea, Lord; thou knowest that I love thee. He saith unto him, Feed my sheep.
17 He saith unto him the third time, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me? Peter was grieved because he said unto him the third time, Lovest thou me? And he said unto him, Lord, thou knowest all things; thou knowest that I love thee. Jesus saith unto him, Feed my sheep.
18 Verily, verily, I say unto thee, When thou wast young, thou girdest thyself, and walkedst whither thou wouldest: but when thou shalt be old, thou shalt stretch forth thy hands, and another shall gird thee, and carry thee whither thou wouldest not.
19 This spake he, signifying by what death he should glorify God. And when he had spoken this, he saith unto him, Follow me."

This is the love of God, that He gave Peter three chances to right that which he did wrong - three chances to do what is good and holy. The opposite of denying God is to FEED HIS SHEEP. Are we doing that?

According to this scripture, we are denying God if we do not feed his sheep. The sheep are hungry - some will falter without nourishment. Will we feed them, or will we condemn them for their hunger?

What will the Shepherd say when he returns?

Listen! All those here will be tested. Do not believe for a minute that your fate lies within you. Rather, it lies in the hands of a loving and just God - the very God who shall give us a chance to right the wrongs we ourselves have inflicted upon others and Him. We will be tested; may God have mercy on all of us...


79 posted on 05/31/2004 9:32:47 AM PDT by dandelion
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To: dandelion

JOHN, CHAPTER 21, NEW TESTAMENT


80 posted on 05/31/2004 9:33:23 AM PDT by dandelion
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