Posted on 05/31/2004 9:00:49 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
Is it better to live a life or have a soul eternally saved? Not a taunt, but a question
Thanks Doc. I Like the freepers alot and I find fit in with most views. I tend to stay away from religous arguments though as I really dont have anything to contribute. I do find it curious how many Christians here have different interpretations of the same writings. Maybe the Moslems have similar problems with thier religions? Actually based on differnt reports I can say with some certainty that they do have problems with thier interpretations.
>>A Christian Arab who was held captive by al Qaeda militants in Saudi Arabia said on Monday he lied to them about his faith and praised their battle against the West, to save his life.
The Preacher said: "For to him that is joined to all the living there is hope: for a living dog is better than a dead lion." -- Ecclesiastes 9:4
He didn't. That is what the Messiah was expected to be by the Jews of the day, and it is evident from many of the things the disciples said or asked that they had a great deal of difficulty seeing Jesus without that presuppositional grid.
You imply that motivation for Peter in justifying your characterization of Peter's action in denying the Christ 3 times.
I didn't "imply" anything of the kind. The disciples were disillusioned by Christ's death and probably thought they had wasted three years of their life following a false Messiah.
None of what I have said is outside the mainstream interpretation of the Gospels. Don't blame me if you haven't done your homework.
Until one is faced with such a horrifying situation, it is not your place, nor mine, to criticize.
That is true in that He doesn't hand down the judgement we deserve. His hand of judgement is tempered by mercy. That doesn't mean that we don't reap what we have sown. A woman might go out and have a one-night stand and become pregnant, go to God and repent and be forgiven. That doesn't mean that He will take away the consequences of that sin (the baby).
How does quoting a biblical passage make one a nut job?
Yup. That's pretty much it esp. if he stays where he is.
How can you be sure that this Jordanian man was indwelt by the Holy Spirit; that he had come into the fullness of his salvation? There are Christians at all stages of maturity on their journey. We cannot judge. We can do no more than we are doing here...speculate on how God might view the man's actions, all the while recognizing that it is between God and the man himself.
baloney.
I John 1:9...
yes.
we can sin and "get away with it."
we all do it... every single day, by omission or comission, we all deny Christ.
how many times a day can you deny christ and get a way with it?
If HE follows his own standard laid down to peter and the apostles... at least 490 times.. "70 times 7"...
If God breaks his own word regarding forgiveness of sins confessed, heaven might as well be hell. I have no interest in following a merciless god who does not keep his own commandments and guidelines, and breaks his promises to forgive and cleanse of ALL sins, whenever we confess them...
That kind of god, would be the devil.
Only man made religions, could be so stupid as to believe in such a god.
Jesus forgave peter after his denial.
Judas could have been forgiven, had he confessed his sin, instead of hanging himself. God is no respector of persons.
out of context.
I don't know God enough. I'll be getting into heaven by the skin of my teeth.
Yep. If God gave us what we really deserved, we'd all be finished. God is very merciful I think.
Doc, I agree that the time of persecution of Christians right here in the USA is drawing near. Within twenty years, I believe Christianity will be treated as some kind of wacko fringe by the overwhelming majority of mainstream America.
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Exactly. How many people on this thread have ever been threatened at gunpoint over their religion. Come on, raise your hands. Oh, none of you, I see. How many of you KNOW whether this man will be forgiven? Oh, none of you. Wow. A lot of judgement for not much knowledge.
Good point. And it may have been God, or a Guardian Angel, who placed that Koran near enough to him that he was able to deceive the devil and save his life (and maybe continue to provide for his family on earth -- I didn't read the details).
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