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I went to TradeSports.com which is a futures market in which people bet on the outcomes of various things.

According to the current trading prices of the futures contracts, an estimate can be found of what traders are betting will be the outcome of 2004 Presidential Election.

If the traders are correct, President Bush would receive 304 Electoral Votes and John Kerry would receive 234 Electoral Votes.

If the weighted probabilities of President Bush winning in the states are added up, and then divided by 538, and multiplied by 100, then President Bush should get 281.12 Electoral Votes.

270 Electoral Votes are needed to win the Presidency.

Opinions and commentary are welcome.

1 posted on 05/31/2004 8:34:06 AM PDT by Momaw Nadon
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To: Momaw Nadon
Previous projections:

2004 Projected Presidential Electoral Votes as of 5/24/2004
2004 Projected Presidential Electoral Votes as of 5/17/2004
2004 Projected Presidential Electoral Votes as of 5/10/2004
2004 Projected Presidential Electoral Votes as of 5/3/2004
2004 Projected Presidential Electoral Votes as of 4/26/2004
2004 Projected Presidential Electoral Votes as of 4/19/2004
2004 Projected Presidential Electoral Votes as of 4/12/2004
2004 Projected Presidential Electoral Votes as of 4/5/2004
2004 Projected Presidential Electoral Votes as of 3/29/2004
2004 Projected Presidential Electoral Votes as of 3/22/2004
2004 Projected Presidential Electoral Votes as of 3/15/2004
2004 Projected Presidential Electoral Votes as of 3/8/2004
2004 Projected Presidential Electoral Votes as of 3/1/2004
2004 Projected Presidential Electoral Votes as of 2/23/2004
2004 Projected Presidential Electoral Votes as of 2/16/2004
2004 Projected Presidential Electoral Votes as of 2/9/2004
2004 Projected Presidential Electoral Votes as of 2/2/2004
2004 Projected Presidential Electoral Votes as of 1/26/2004
2004 Projected Presidential Electoral Votes as of 1/21/2004

2 posted on 05/31/2004 8:34:22 AM PDT by Momaw Nadon (Goals for 2004: Re-elect President Bush, over 60 Republicans in the Senate, and a Republican House.)
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3 posted on 05/31/2004 8:34:48 AM PDT by Momaw Nadon (Goals for 2004: Re-elect President Bush, over 60 Republicans in the Senate, and a Republican House.)
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4 posted on 05/31/2004 8:35:13 AM PDT by Momaw Nadon (Goals for 2004: Re-elect President Bush, over 60 Republicans in the Senate, and a Republican House.)
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In spite of that butt-ugly picture you got on your homepage, I trust your thread is accurate.....and I appreciate it....mucho!!!


6 posted on 05/31/2004 8:39:19 AM PDT by YaYa123 (@ Happy Memorial Day To All.com)
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To: Momaw Nadon
Opinions and commentary are welcome.

So it is felt that MN will go Kerry without a fight?

Well, perhaps all is lost after all the Dem's DO have Senator M. Dayton in their ranks and Dubya only has Senator Coleman and Governor T. Pawlenty.

9 posted on 05/31/2004 8:42:21 AM PDT by EGPWS (Fly your flag proudly Monday in memory of the true patriots who have given their all)
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To: Momaw Nadon
Traders are again off, by 96 this time.
As Dubya will get no less than 400 EC votes.
10 posted on 05/31/2004 8:42:22 AM PDT by jla (http://johnkerryisdangerousforamerica.blogspot.com)
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Does TradeSports have a track record in prior Presidential races? How did they fare?


16 posted on 05/31/2004 8:51:45 AM PDT by gitmo (Thanks, Mel. I needed that.)
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Same as the last 2 weeks...I sure would like to see an upward trend.


22 posted on 05/31/2004 9:12:16 AM PDT by Recovering_Democrat (I'm so glad to no longer be associated with the Party of Dependence on Government!)
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To: Momaw Nadon

Interesting statistics. See also http://congress.org/congressorg/pyv/stats/?action=stats for a different perspective.


24 posted on 05/31/2004 9:28:18 AM PDT by Humal
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Check the state with most illegal aliens---- Immigration cost Republican seats
Redistricting impacted by wave of new legal, illegal residents







The heavy influx of immigrants cost the Republican Party nine House seats during the 2000 political redistricting process, according to a report by the Center for Immigration Studies.

One of those seats was lost as a result of illegal aliens being counted as part of the national population by the U.S. Census Bureau, the report's authors concluded.

The report, "Remaking the Political Landscape: The Impact of Illegal and Legal Immigration on Congressional Apportionment," was produced by the Center for Immigration Studies.

Dudley Poston, a Texas A&M sociology professor and author of the CIS report, examined how congressional seats would have been reapportioned if the Census Bureau had not counted naturalized American citizens, legal permanent residents, illegal aliens and those on long-term temporary visas.

Among the report’s findings:


The presence of illegal aliens in other states caused Indiana, Michigan, and Mississippi to each lose one seat in the House in 2000, while Montana failed to gain a seat it otherwise would have.

Illegal immigration not only redistributes seats in the House, it has the same effect on presidential elections because the Electoral College is based on the size of congressional delegations.

The presence of all non-citizens in the Census redistributed a total of nine seats. The term "non-citizens" includes illegal aliens, legal immigrants and temporary visitors, mainly foreign students and guest workers. In addition to the four states that lost a seat due to the presence of illegal aliens, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Kentucky and Utah each had one fewer seat than they otherwise would have.

None of the states that lost a seat due to non-citizens is declining in population. The population of the four states that lost seats due to illegal immigration increased 1.6 million in the 1990s, while the population of the five states that lost seats because of other non-citizens grew by two million.

Immigrant-induced reapportionment is different from reapportionment caused when natives relocate to other states. Immigration takes away representation from states composed almost entirely of U.S. citizens and results in the creation of new districts in states with large numbers of non-citizens.

In the nine states that lost a seat due to the presence of non-citizens, only one in 50 residents is a non-citizen. In contrast, one in seven residents is a non-citizen in California, which picked up six of these seats. One in 10 residents is a non-citizen in New York, Texas and Florida, the states that gained the other three seats.

The numbers are even larger in some districts — 43 percent of the population in California’s immigrant-heavy 31st district is made up of non-citizens, while in the 34th district, 38 percent are non-citizens. In Florida’s 21st district, 28 percent of the population is non-citizen, and in New York’s 12th district the number is 23 percent.

The large number of non-citizens creates a tension with the principle of "one man, one vote" because it takes so few votes to win these immigrant-heavy districts. In 2002, it took almost 100,000 votes to win the typical congressional race in the four states that lost a seat due to illegal aliens, while it took fewer than 35,000 votes to win the 34th and 31st districts of California.

Although the number of naturalizations increased in the 1990s, the number of non-citizens still increased dramatically to 18.5 million in 2000, up from 11.8 million in 1990 and seven million in 1980.


26 posted on 05/31/2004 9:36:43 AM PDT by take
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illegal alien population in California since 1992 increase 24%,Florida 20%,New York 20%,North Carolina 18%,Ohio 18%,
Pennsylvania 18%,Washington 20%,Michigan 20%


27 posted on 05/31/2004 9:51:38 AM PDT by take
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Electoral Votes California 55 ,Florida 27 , Michigan 17 ,New York 31,Ohio 20 ,Pennsylvania 21, North Carolina 15 ,Texas 34 , illegal alien population in Texas since 1992 increase 22%


28 posted on 05/31/2004 9:58:45 AM PDT by take
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The bid/asked spread for Pennsylvania is 48.0 bid 51.7 asked; the mean is 49.85, so that state should be recorded as leaning to John Kerry, and the projected electoral vote totals change to 283 for Bush, and 255 for Kerry.


31 posted on 05/31/2004 8:23:49 PM PDT by doug9732
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Date Prob. Bush Win Mean EVs Std. Dev.
01/21 96.8% 341.5 41.1
01/26 95.5% 334.8 40.6
02/02 92.2% 323.8 39.7
02/09 83.0% 307.8 40.3
02/16 78.4% 300.4 39.4
02/23 76.2% 298.2 39.6
03/01 74.5% 295.9 39.3
03/08 68.0% 289.2 39.8
03/15 68.0% 288.8 39.0
03/22 68.5% 289.3 38.8
03/29 69.4% 290.1 38.8
04/05 71.2% 292.3 39.1
04/12 70.4% 290.6 38.1
04/19 68.6% 288.1 36.7
04/26 64.9% 284.5 36.3
05/03 66.3% 285.7 36.3
05/10 65.6% 285.3 36.8
05/17 65.2% 284.8 36.6
05/24 60.0% 280.3 36.9
05/31 61.1% 281.2 36.8

34 posted on 06/01/2004 7:44:41 AM PDT by jdege
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