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To: miltonim

I'm not a Catholic, but it seems to me that those wearing sashes are deliberately defying the teachings of the Catholic church and saying, "I plan to sin, I see no need of forgiveness for my blatant sin, but I want to draw you into my own pretense of receiving forgiveness. I am mocking the church's teaching that my sin is a sin and you MUST pretend with me. I am here to pretend I need to be absolved of a sin I don't want to be forgiven of and don't plan to stop commiting."


10 posted on 05/30/2004 4:03:48 PM PDT by formercalifornian ("Our Senate always opens with a prayer, followed by an investigation." --Will Rogers)
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To: formercalifornian
I'm not a Catholic, but it seems to me that those wearing sashes are deliberately defying the teachings of the Catholic church and saying, "I plan to sin, I see no need of forgiveness for my blatant sin, but I want to draw you into my own pretense of receiving forgiveness. I am mocking the church's teaching that my sin is a sin and you MUST pretend with me. I am here to pretend I need to be absolved of a sin I don't want to be forgiven of and don't plan to stop commiting."

You've got it! See my post #5.

16 posted on 05/30/2004 4:16:33 PM PDT by NYer (Even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light! (2Cor 11:14))
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To: formercalifornian

You are right on. And I am not a theologian, but...
I think that a "sin against the Holy Spirit" is a sin such as that committed by the sash-wearers.
It is a hyper-sin, one that cannot be forgiven, according to the words of Jesus.
Why?
Not because God is unwilling to forgive the penitent, but, in such a case as this, the penitent refuses adamantly to consider the behavior sinful.
The gays think what they are doing is virtuous.
But militant homosexuality is a sin against the Holy Spirit.


57 posted on 05/30/2004 6:59:20 PM PDT by caddie
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To: formercalifornian

"I'm not a Catholic, but it seems to me that those wearing sashes are deliberately defying the teachings of the Catholic church and saying, "I plan to sin, I see no need of forgiveness for my blatant sin, but I want to draw you into my own pretense of receiving forgiveness. I am mocking the church's teaching that my sin is a sin and you MUST pretend with me. I am here to pretend I need to be absolved of a sin I don't want to be forgiven of and don't plan to stop commiting."

Thank you, well put. I agree. I think these people are nothing but community anti-family trolls whose agenda is to turn traditional religion, traditional family values upside down, backwards and forwards with some zig zagging to confuse, deflect, create anarchy and chaos till in their mind the country is totally secular. They are parasites who demand attention like attention defecit disordered children. They are to be pitied.



101 posted on 06/01/2004 4:03:40 PM PDT by SunnySide
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