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To: Snapple

I'm still reading that article and trying to tie things out. Being able to prove that Sam is Ahmed would be a good start... or at least to find the relationship. I had read the postings of soj before. She has things on that site that I have not seen printed elsewhere... I wonder where she gets her info. I also read the Yahoo message boards with Handi stuff. Amazing... and very complicated, I agree.

With the businesses I found for Aziz in Philadelphia, it would not suprise me that this is where much of the mid-east electronics came from (Radio equipment?, OBL Battery?)... and we already know his other business were tied to the Russian Mafia.

I think Aziz infiltrated the right wing by saying all the things the right wing media wanted to hear (oust Saddam). He hit the talk radio and talk show circuit, and spoke at Freeper events as well as the Council on Foreign Relations.

Once I can define the relationships in my mind, the weapons is an easy jump. Weapons, money laundering, etc.... all to help the relative causes. I wish I understood the different political leanings of all the various Iraqi groups... Sunni, Shi'ite, Baathists, Kurds (am I missing some?). Chalabi is a Shi'ite and is blaming the Baathists for his troubles. A Russian Mafia influence on one of these groups is not beyond the realm of possibility.


104 posted on 05/31/2004 7:40:38 PM PDT by calcowgirl
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To: calcowgirl

The way I see this is that probably the bad guys (Russian organized crime and Bin Laden) are trying to infiltrate their operatives into the new structures we are trying to create.

This is not without precident. After Communism, a lot of Russian money left Russia and then went back as "western investment." Same guys, new hats.

I actually support the war in Iraq. But it is not beyond the pale that Russian criminal structures might be pro-war too, so they can make money off the war by selling weapons to the terrorists. I think that happened in Chechnya--Al Qaeda and the Russian mafia one big happy family. Communists/KGB operatives were big joiners, and I think the Russian criminals also join things to take them over, too.

Even scarier is the alleged Aziz-Tarik Handi connection.

And if Chalabi is complicit in this, that would be terrible. Especially if he is building his own army to guard/snatch the oil fields. Well, my brain is tired!



105 posted on 05/31/2004 8:04:16 PM PDT by Snapple
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To: calcowgirl

Here is Sam Kubba's website with his picture. He is running for Congress as a Democrat.

http://www.kubbaforcongress.com/Meet%20Sam.htm


106 posted on 05/31/2004 8:12:06 PM PDT by Snapple
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To: calcowgirl

http://www.nvcc.vccs.edu/phone/a2z/kubba_sam_a.htm

Sam A. Kubba. Maybe the A is for Ahmed.

He teaches at NOVA the community college.


107 posted on 05/31/2004 8:17:11 PM PDT by Snapple
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