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1 posted on 05/30/2004 11:02:40 AM PDT by Willie Green
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NeoCons: those who aspire to achieve socialism via the Republican party?


2 posted on 05/30/2004 11:04:41 AM PDT by Abcdefg
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I saw the term "mesoconservative" the other day.

I am expecting anyday soon Jerassicon, Futuracon and Retrocon and Condacon.


4 posted on 05/30/2004 11:06:22 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (This is a tag: </> This is a Line ---------)
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A derogatory term usually used by liberals an RINO's to attack anyone who supports President Bush.


5 posted on 05/30/2004 11:07:11 AM PDT by COEXERJ145
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Thanks for posting the article. It is clear from the discussion involving prominent Conservatives (as in your article) that no one quite agrees,


6 posted on 05/30/2004 11:08:43 AM PDT by BunnySlippers (Must get moose and squirrel ... B. Badanov)
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To: Willie Green; Carry_Okie; forester; sasquatch; B4Ranch; SierraWasp; hedgetrimmer; knews_hound; ...

Short list.


7 posted on 05/30/2004 11:10:35 AM PDT by farmfriend ( In Essentials, Unity...In Non-Essentials, Liberty...In All Things, Charity.)
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I read the article pretty fast, but can't figure out the Anti-Semitic part?

Can some one explain what they were talking about?
16 posted on 05/30/2004 11:22:53 AM PDT by Delphinium
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George Will: It's not necessarily anti-Semitic. There is often an anti-Semitic twist to it, yes.

I think George Will's response was the closest to accurate.

17 posted on 05/30/2004 11:24:54 AM PDT by Cinnamon Girl
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Rich Lowry: ... And with the war on terror, you saw neoconservatives emerging as a distinct tendency within conservatism, mostly on foreign policy; its hallmarks being extreme interventionism, extremely idealistic foreign policy, and emphasis on democracy building and spreading human rights and freedom and an overestimation, in my view, of how easy it is to spread democracy and liberty to spots in the world where it doesn't exist currently.

True enough, and well said. Lowry's National Review led the way on this. A little more skepticism and openness to opposing opinions would have been advisable. Maybe they wanted to get out far ahead and give clear indications of the way for others to follow, lest they be left behind and lose their influence or the country miss the big opportunity to change the world.

It would be surprising if some of the big war pundits (Hanson, Peters, Price-Jones, Steyn) will have as much influence in the future as they had over the last two years or so. National Review will probably do some backpedaling to disassociate itself from the more determined and impassioned neocons, but they've lost some credibility in recent months.

20 posted on 05/30/2004 11:31:32 AM PDT by x
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NeoCon: A word used by a socialist seeking to divide the Conservative Movement.


21 posted on 05/30/2004 11:32:05 AM PDT by ChadGore (Vote Bush. He's Earned It.)
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"It's called the Conservative Movement"

23 posted on 05/30/2004 11:33:29 AM PDT by ChadGore (Vote Bush. He's Earned It.)
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Ping for later


28 posted on 05/30/2004 11:43:20 AM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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"Neo-con" is often used by Europeans and like-minded Americans who want to bring back national socialism. The word is used to falsely describe US Republicans, Protestants and Jews. It is a projection and is used falsely in that those who use it are socialists who wouldn't dare give up the social programs they screamed for, including the VAWA, the Child Support Act and other feminazi cash cows for supporting single motherhood and the destruction of the family. The ancestors of most who use the word came to America roughly 100 years ago, in huge, starving hordes.


29 posted on 05/30/2004 11:45:18 AM PDT by familyop (Essayons)
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As far as I can tell, it's President Ronald Reagan and his supporters or a conservative Jew.


35 posted on 05/30/2004 11:55:54 AM PDT by Chi-townChief
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What's the difference between "conservative" and "neoconservative"? Who are the "neocons," anyway?

How many angels can dance on the head of a pin? Or is it a needle?

Who cares? All anyone needs to do is to read the answers in this column to see how pointless the question really is, and will continue to be.

The best answer may depend upon the outcome of our mission in Iraq. If things don't go well, "neocons" are gonna be an empty set, just another label to add to our long and growing last of political perjoratives.

Wherever we might want to go, labels won't help us get there.

37 posted on 05/30/2004 11:58:33 AM PDT by Scenic Sounds (Sí, estamos libres sonreír otra vez - ahora y siempre.)
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National Review hashed this out quite extensively during
the first gulf war. neocons are traditional Democrats
that found themselves voting republican because their
former party didn't oppose communism fiercely enough
during the cold war. FDR, they hypothesized, would be
a neoconservative republican if he was alive today. (THAT
one certainly set dumbocrat teeth gnashing.) I think
that neoconservatives are generally considered to be
more expansionist regarding their foreign policy.

I have heard their counterparts in the party referred to
as paleoconservatives.
39 posted on 05/30/2004 12:04:49 PM PDT by smonk
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I am a donkey Con. thats a conservative that throws barrels at italian plumbers.

ps if you dont get this joke you didnt play enough arcade games during the 80s!


40 posted on 05/30/2004 12:09:05 PM PDT by captaindude2 (Soon to be banned again!)
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Wish I had the knowledge and wherewith all to trace "neocon" all the way back to the first mention. And then ask the responsible person what it means.
45 posted on 05/30/2004 12:24:37 PM PDT by upchuck (With all due respect to my sister and her biting moose, cheese is milk's leap toward immortality.)
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Neocons: another name invented by the liberals to call those who oppose them, and they are habitually missing any substantive ideas and need to resort to namecalling.


59 posted on 05/30/2004 2:26:27 PM PDT by Publius6961 (I don't do diplomacy either.)
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Q: Is this a neoconservative war in Iraq?

Rich Lowry: No.

Paul Weyrich: I don't think that you could make that case.

Paul Gigot: No.

60 posted on 05/30/2004 2:58:14 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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A liberal media attempt to divide conservatives, I have never heard the term until recently. Perhaps we should start the 'neo lib' and 'paleo lib' offensive, or something similar.


62 posted on 05/30/2004 3:08:17 PM PDT by X-FID ( ". . . . I'm making steps. . . . I look at an issue. I'm not afraid to run away from it,")
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