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Memorial Day thread...What's your Favorite WW II war movie?
one man's opinion

Posted on 05/30/2004 4:15:31 AM PDT by ken5050

If you happen to turn your TV set on at any time this Memorial Day weekend, there's a strong probability you'll come across a World War II war movie..... the classic Hollywood genre. There are many of them, and, happily a lot of very good ones. So, on this weekend of remembrance, and the dedication of the WW II memorial, what's your favorite, or favorites, and why?


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To: Night Hides Not
Nice tips, I'd forgotten about those. Back in 1995, the Trinity Site was opened to the public, in honor of the 50th anniversary of the detonation of Fat Man. As I told my kids (who are now in HS), this was truly one of the places where world history was changed.

I'd love to get a chunk of trinitite, or at least tour the place...winter please.

From a personal standpoint, A Bridge Too Far, ranks at the top of my list. It came out a few months after I graduated from Jump School at Fort Benning. EVERY TIME I watch it, I physically cringe at the sight of Gen. Gavin (Ryan O'Neal) opening his legs just before landing. If I learned anything in Jump School, it was KEEP YOUR FEET AND KNEES TOGETHER!!!!

I just love "A Bridge Too Far." I love the cast, the writing, the music is fabulous, all of it. I remember when Gavin snaps at the Brit and his underling apologizes by saying "when he jumped I think he cracked his spine."

The Hartenstein Hotel was rebuilt/renovated after WWII, and is now a museum.

Was that the German HQ?

341 posted on 05/31/2004 2:24:58 PM PDT by Petronski (And I never see the IDF 'til it's way too late! Now I'm dyin' in the Gaza Strip in the blazin' sun.)
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To: ken5050
Escape From Colditz Castle

Die Gedanken sind frei, wer kann sie erraten,

sie fliegen vorbei, wie nächtliche Schatten.

Kein Mensch kann sie wissen, kein Jäger ersch ießen.

Es bleibet dabei: Die Gedanken sind frei!

342 posted on 05/31/2004 2:26:00 PM PDT by metabit
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To: Petronski
Was that the German HQ?

Yes, I think so. IIRC, that was Model's HQ. Nevertheless, you gave me a great reason to dust off the ol' DVD, just to make sure.

Other WWII movies in my library are: Tora, Tora, Tora; Great Escape; and Band of Brothers. These are just the DVDs. I bet that if I went back through my VHS library, I'd find a bunch more.

One other personal note: many years ago (12-14), we were vacationing in LA. While taking my kids swimming, I noticed that Telly Savalas was playing cards with a friend by the pool. I didn't want to bother him for a picture, but I guess I should have. He smiled at my then three year old son as Richie was dashing back to our room. It was a fatherly smile, the kind that says "I remember when my kids were that young."

343 posted on 05/31/2004 2:40:52 PM PDT by Night Hides Not
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To: Night Hides Not

The jump scene in Bridge Too Far was as close to right as I can think of in a film - almost looked like you were standing in the door and feeling the guy behind you pressing forward.

[Made for several gasps in the theater first time I saw it]


344 posted on 05/31/2004 3:07:06 PM PDT by norton
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To: R. Scott

That's one of the reasons I mentioned "Enemy at the Gates" in a previous post. I thought that it was a great representation of the determination on the part of the Russians at Stalingrad to defend their city, even if they despised the man after whom it was named.


345 posted on 05/31/2004 5:51:18 PM PDT by The Scourge of Yazid ("This is so cool, 'cause Speed knows who killed JFK! " "Okay, who killed JFK?" "Dezi Arnez.")
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To: Peach

Bump


346 posted on 05/31/2004 10:04:18 PM PDT by jokar (On line data base http://www.trackingthethreat.com/db/index.htm)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets; Skooz; snopercod; joanie-f; Ragtime Cowgirl
A Bridge Too Far

The Great Escape

Battle of Britain

Wings of Eagles

The "realism" in Spielberg's film, Saving Private Ryan, was already established much earlier in Cornelius Ryan's A Bridge Too Far. The cast portraying the Red Devils at the bridge, were superb. Ryan himself, was dying from prostate cancer. The film is one of the few that shows the difficulties of taking decisions, all up and down the chain of command, as such decisions are affected by logistics, something that most people do not get any sense of, from their public education, and rarely, if ever, from film.

This sound track is Stanley Maxted's live report from the battle, during a desperately needed parachute drop:

http://www.marketgarden.com/new/sounds/maxted1.mp3

All the noise that you hear, is not static --- it is the hammering din of battle and men's shouts.

347 posted on 05/31/2004 11:29:08 PM PDT by First_Salute (May God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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To: ItsonlikeDonkeyKong

I read the book, “Stalingrad” (Viking, 1998) by Antony Beevor several years ago. What the Soviet troops and civilians endured was nearly unbelievable. It was as bad as the Battle of the Bulge, but lasted for six months. Nearly a million Germans were captured (less that 5,000 returned after the war) and 150,000 died.


348 posted on 06/01/2004 3:21:29 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: ItsonlikeDonkeyKong
I guess I'll have to see Deer Hunter again. I came away from it as a cynical representation of misguided patriotism. I did enjoy the aspects of the film you listed.
349 posted on 06/01/2004 9:11:39 AM PDT by mondoman (si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: ken5050

While I'm definitely not prepared to add this to a "best of" list yet, I watched "Ike" on A&E last night, and it did a pretty good job of portraying the tense political and command decisions that Eisenhower was faced with. I didn't see too much in the way of PC non-sense either, even to the point of depicting Ike's chain smoking. All in all, a good job, IMO.


350 posted on 06/01/2004 9:22:07 AM PDT by Space Wrangler
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To: ken5050

While I'm definitely not prepared to add this to a "best of" list yet, I watched "Ike" on A&E last night, and it did a pretty good job of portraying the tense political and command decisions that Eisenhower was faced with. I didn't see too much in the way of PC non-sense either, even to the point of depicting Ike's chain smoking. All in all, a good job, IMO.


351 posted on 06/01/2004 9:22:08 AM PDT by Space Wrangler
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To: ken5050
"What's your Favorite WW II war movie?"

There are four WWII Movies I must watch when they are shown on TV (Drives the Mrs nuts!)

Patton

The Big Red One

Kelly's Heroes

In Harm's Way

They all just grab my attention every time I find them on.

352 posted on 06/01/2004 9:32:50 AM PDT by Mad Dawgg (French: old Europe word meaning surrender)
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To: ken5050
I would have to list two ...

In Harm's Way
Kelly's Heroes

353 posted on 06/01/2004 9:48:06 AM PDT by BlueLancer (Der Elite Møøsënspåånkængrüppen ØberKømmändø (EMØØK))
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To: Dustoff45
Kelly's Heroes ...

My favorite line ... [One of the tanks is broken down and the crew is feverishly trying to repair it, while Oddball is sitting in the shade. Kelly asks him why he isn't helping ...

Oh, man, I just ride in em' ... I don't know what makes 'em work.

354 posted on 06/01/2004 9:50:51 AM PDT by BlueLancer (Der Elite Møøsënspåånkængrüppen ØberKømmändø (EMØØK))
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To: ken5050
"What was the film, think it was "555 Squadron" about the British mosquitos bomibn the Nazi heavy water plant in Norway?"

633 Squadron ...

And what about "The Dam Busters", with its bouncing bombs ...?

355 posted on 06/01/2004 9:54:22 AM PDT by BlueLancer (Der Elite Møøsënspåånkængrüppen ØberKømmändø (EMØØK))
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To: BlueLancer; ken5050
"633 Squadron ..."

Regarding "633 Squadron", George Lucas said that he used the movies "combat footage" of the Mosquito attack on the fjord as the basis for the scenes in Star Wars where the X-fighters were attacking the Death Star down that long fjord-like canyon ...

The show even showed comparisons between the two movies, showing wing-overs by the Mosquitos and comparing them to similar X-wing scenes ... very interesting.

356 posted on 06/01/2004 9:59:47 AM PDT by BlueLancer (Der Elite Møøsënspåånkængrüppen ØberKømmändø (EMØØK))
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To: ken5050

357 posted on 06/01/2004 10:11:05 AM PDT by BlueLancer (Der Elite Møøsënspåånkængrüppen ØberKømmändø (EMØØK))
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To: RaceBannon

Race, do you rememebr the Noel Coward film.."In which we serve"....and there's another one I forgot all about...it's a great movie..."The Cruel Sea"...maybe the BEST of all the North Atlantic combat films..


358 posted on 06/01/2004 10:46:36 AM PDT by ken5050
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To: ken5050

I remember THE CRUEL SEA, a great classic!

In Which we serve sounds familiar, dont remember it.


359 posted on 06/01/2004 10:51:37 AM PDT by RaceBannon (VOTE DEMOCRAT AND LEARN ARABIC FREE!!)
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To: ItsonlikeDonkeyKong; lainde; Petronski

Gotta add one more, YOU must see...I'm kickign myself for forgetting it..it would make my top ten list, easy...."THE CRUEL SEA"..based on the superb novel by Nicholas Monserrat, which, if you can find it..is also worth reading..


360 posted on 06/01/2004 10:53:40 AM PDT by ken5050
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