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To: tbeatty; DonaldDuke
No. Not ignorant. I just don't care. It was 60 years ago....Keep in mind the allies of the German Nazis. The Russians, Japanese, Italians, etc etc. If your not willing to condemn Germany, Italy and Japan at this point, why would you try to connect Islam. It's a waste of time and it generates much more backlash than it moves the argument forward.

Shot to #6 on the PA best seller list. Sells well in Jordan and Egypt, in London too I've read. I presume the popularity of the Arabic version is purely a function of historical interest rather than a common mindset.

"Hitler the soldier left behind not only a legend stained by tragedy itself; the tragedy of a state whose dreams were shattered, a regime whose pillars were torn down, and a political party that was crushed. Hitler was a man of ideology who bequeathed an ideological heritage whose decay is inconceivable. This ideological heritage includes politics, society, science, culture, and war as science and culture."

"The National Socialism that Hitler preached for and whose characteristics were presented in his book My Struggle, and whose principles he explained in his speeches before he took power, as well as during the 13 years he spent at the head of the German nation - this National Socialism did not die with the death of its herald. Rather, its seeds multiplied under each star."

"We cannot really understand the efforts of this man without examining the principles enclosed in his book My Struggle that the Nazis turned into the "Gospel of National Socialism."

"This translation of the book My Struggle has never been presented to Arab speakers. It is taken from the original text of the author, Adolf Hitler. The text was untouched by the censor. We made a point to deliver Hitler's opinions and theories on nationalism, regimes, and ethnicity without any changes because they are not yet outmoded and because we, in the Arab world, still proceed haphazardly in all three fields."

Luis Al-Haj, translator.

64 posted on 05/30/2004 7:02:52 PM PDT by SJackson (Be careful -- with quotations, you can damn anything, Andre Malraux)
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To: SJackson

nice, very nice.
the islamapologists won't see it the way it is, but my thanks to you from those of us with open eyes.


66 posted on 05/30/2004 7:07:21 PM PDT by King Prout (the difference between "trained intellect" and "indoctrinated intellectual" is an Abyssal gulf)
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To: SJackson
Is your point that Palestinians are anti-semitic? Or that Jordanians with a large Palestinian population or that Egyptians who fought numerous wars with Israel are anit-semitic?

Well duh! The question is, do you think it helps the argument to try and link them to Nazi's or do you think it immediately turns off 90% of the population who are tired of hearing about how everyone we don't like are Nazi's. I've heard Bush is a Nazi, Clinton is a Nazi, Gore is a Nazi, Cheney is a Nazi, Buchanan is a Nazi, etc, etc. The broad stroke of Nazi means nothing today and in fact it turns people away from the facts.

Arabs want to destroy Israel (and America by the way, it's not just Jews). Rather than just paint them with the broad brush of Nazi, we need to change their minds and heart by introducing freedoms and government reforms and overthrow. Eradicate the terrorist population and bring free enterprise to the region. There will always be the anti-Israel, anti-US groups but we can make them fringe groups by bringing a "middle-class" that is dependant on trade with other nations.

72 posted on 05/31/2004 8:32:47 AM PDT by tbeatty (On ANWR: "Why should I care about a Caribou I'm never gonna eat?")
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