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To: liberallyconservative; toomanygrasshoppers
Kitty Hawk, that brought a lot of side results, while searching it.

The ship, I think that the terrorist threat, may mean any
Flat top or aircraft carrier, the Kitty Hawk may be only a type.

for me, my end results seemed to always lead to the town and not the ship.

First thing that comes to mind is "Scuba Divers", miles of easy unguarded shoreline.

Second, it was about then that several military planes fell out of the sky in the U.S.

Some of the military airports were on the sea and available to the scuba divers.

there were several chemical/refineries/test labs in the general area of the town.

I have no training in taking out ships, but think that to take on a carrier would be difficult.

Yemen is a prime example, the Cole was a sitting duck, as were our ships in Hawaii.

My thought is that there are enough threats against the whole world that the Navy will keep our ships moving and it will be difficult to find a sitting target.

I never loose the thought of Cuba's navy or the OBL Navy.

Don't forget that we still don't have the answer to the dead scuba divers.

When the Cuban crisis happened, the San Diego ships went to sea. As did my stepfather, we never knew what happened, but when he died 10 years ago, there was a stack of Commendations and Purple Hearts.

Stan was a great man, except that he liked to drink, he always said that he was the only man who served 30 years and came out with less rank than he started with as a gunners mate.

Based on my memory of my husband, it is not at all unusual for the ships to go out to sea and make circles, until it is safe to return.

No, they are not running scared, instead it is an act to protect the ship itself from possible harm.

It is also to be sure that the ship can get to the point where it will be needed.

so OK, I am granny out in the middle of the desert and haven't seen an ocean in 20 years, but if I were the Admiral, those ships would be out to sea.

There are many men here who know far more than I about the Navy and Military.

It is too late to move them after the harbor is blocked, as we already know someone has been attempting to do.

It was the cruise ships during the Mardi Gras, what if it was our battle ships that were locked in next time?
2,259 posted on 06/04/2004 2:58:04 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny (You can help win the election by becoming a REGISTRAR OF VOTERS, easy go to Court House and sign up)
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To: nw_arizona_granny

Several years ago, I think late 90's my Father went to a Navy reunion. This reunion was held on a ship (an extremely awsome ship according to my Father). We'll I was looking at the photos and suddenly it was like I was there. I said to a sailor let me take your picture before you go the last battle. It was weird. At the time there would not have been a reason for me to be seeing anyone off. However, since then I have cousin in an elite navy group (I love to remind him how I used to change his diaper), and sons of two of my best freinds also in elite groups. I will keep the groups nameless along with the ship. However, if this vision actually occurs I will let all know that it happened but will not name the ship.


2,261 posted on 06/04/2004 3:10:31 PM PDT by mindspy
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To: nw_arizona_granny

You're right.

My college roommate married a guy in the Navy, and he was based at the Charleston SC Naval Base. At one point after she got married, we were talking on the phone. There was a hurricane warning out for Charleston, and she was on her way inland. I asked about her husband, who was on a sub tender. She said they had sailed that morning.

I thought she was insane until my dad (who was in the US Navy during WW2) assured me that the ship was much safer at sea. In port, they would almost assuredly take a pounding in the relatively shallow water, and with the docks and other ships nearby.

He reminded me that the boats were designed to handle storms, and were not rowboats that capsize easily.

Not only that but a hurricane could scuttle other ships in the lanes, and the Naval ships might not be able to get out of port in an emergency.

Remember also that the ships are much more vulnerable to terror attack in port than in open sea for a bunch of reasons, not the least of which is just general congestion. In a close port, you're going to come into close proximity to other boats, some of which may have less than good intentions. At open sea, there's plenty of room to move around. Granny's right - Cole was attacked while attempting to dock.


2,265 posted on 06/04/2004 3:17:32 PM PDT by StillProud2BeFree
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To: nw_arizona_granny

Ruth, I can think of two valid, but simple reasons, our ships are at sea:

1. our protection
2. their protection
3. dodging asteroids

Okay, that's three.....I'm blonde and can't count. :)


2,269 posted on 06/04/2004 3:21:11 PM PDT by Rushmore Rocks (He who laughs.........................lasts!)
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To: nw_arizona_granny

Good post re: our ships/carriers, Granny. Something to keep aware of the next few days/weeks. Thanks!


2,284 posted on 06/04/2004 4:00:12 PM PDT by toomanygrasshoppers ("Hold on to your hats.....it's going to be a bumpy night")
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