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Florida prosecutor gives Limbaugh the bum's rush
Manchester Union Leader ^ | May 29, 2004 | Sam Dealy

Posted on 05/29/2004 6:45:11 AM PDT by billorites

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1 posted on 05/29/2004 6:45:11 AM PDT by billorites
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I wonder how many real crimes are being put on the back burner in order to promote this case against Rush.

When I had a break-in at my house the cops just took down a few numbers and that was that. Never heard anything.


2 posted on 05/29/2004 6:50:49 AM PDT by gortklattu
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Look at the FBI UCR stats page. The laughable solution rate for burglary is not the worst effect the Drug War has had on police effectiveness.

The solution rate for RAPE is declining. And the solution rate for murder is slipping, too.

Buy a gun, you are on your own. The cops are too busy with the Drug War.


3 posted on 05/29/2004 7:08:20 AM PDT by eno_ (Freedom Lite - it's almost worth defending)
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There are some interesting side-posts to this story that cannot be revealed now but one day it will all comeout. Needless to say the state's priorities are screwed up, it's o.k. for judges to abuse oxy but not Rush. I still say he remains the largest target for lib/dem types and don't forget you are talking about Palm Bch. Hardly the rocket science capital of the state.
4 posted on 05/29/2004 7:45:11 AM PDT by keysguy (Rush is right)
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To: billorites
suggests he is merely a patsy for a larger political vendetta.

Mr Krischer is still a member of the New York bar.

5 posted on 05/29/2004 8:06:14 AM PDT by tbpiper (In memory of Spc. Ray J. Hutchinson, A Co., 2-502 Inf, 101st Airborne, Mosul Iraq, Dec. 7, 2003)
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In memory of Spc. Ray J. Hutchinson, A Co., 2-502 Inf, 101st Airborne, Mosul Iraq, Dec. 7, 2003

RIP

6 posted on 05/29/2004 8:30:56 AM PDT by tioga
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To: billorites

I am all for drug treatment, even court-ordered drug treatment. But, isn't drug treatment a liberal idea? Aren't the conservatives for crime and punishment?


7 posted on 05/29/2004 8:36:01 AM PDT by Fishing-guy (AL)
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I am all for drug treatment, even court-ordered drug treatment. But, isn't drug treatment a liberal idea? Aren't the conservatives for crime and punishment?


I can not speak for all conservatives, but I am not against drug treatment for users. The only thing I would do is make it mandatory.

As for dealers, well that is a different story.

8 posted on 05/29/2004 8:44:36 AM PDT by CIB-173RDABN (So many people with so little information, but a whole lot of opinions and no responsibility...)
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Im all for drug treatment, even court-ordered drug treatment. But, isn't drug treatment a liberal idea? Aren't the conservatives for crime and punishment?

In this state we have always had a highly punitive attitude toward criminals, including crimes committed while on drugs. But the populace became so dissatisfied with the nannyism and diversion of law-enforcement resources that the War on Drugs entailed that voters opted to medicalize drug addiction itself, by a wide margin. Legislators, still imbued with the WOD mentality, nullified the proposition the following year. In the next election after that, voters passed propositions that not only restored medicalization but took away the legislature's power to nullify propositions.

9 posted on 05/29/2004 9:11:02 AM PDT by BlazingArizona
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To: Fishing-guy
Aren't the conservatives for crime and punishment?

Ummm, not both.

More seriously, the Drug War is a failure. It's a fine idea to protect people against truly harmful drugs, but not at the price of, for example, the obscene intrusions by the government into doctor-patient relationships, as in Rush's case, or the financial reporting laws, or the propetry siezures, or the cops currupted by drug money, etc.

There was a time before the Drug War, and we were better off then.

10 posted on 05/29/2004 9:36:21 AM PDT by eno_ (Freedom Lite - it's almost worth defending)
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The author forgot the pending bar complaint. That has serious implications for Mr. Krishner. Regardless of what happens to Rush's "case", the Bar complaint continues independently. The Bar has yet to do anything which is significant. The longer they wait the more likely this will be passed on to committee. I also submit the internal politics of the Bar is protecting Mr. Krisner by delaying a preliminary determination of probably cause against his coduct as a lawyer.


11 posted on 05/29/2004 11:39:21 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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drug court is a republican idea and enacted.

Its a solution based concept, not an "own the issue" based democrat do nothing concept.


12 posted on 05/29/2004 11:40:36 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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For firts timers, drug court is an automatic offer if they want it. Of course it means you actually have to be charged with SOMETHING.


13 posted on 05/29/2004 11:41:35 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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And Mr. Krischer likely violated state privacy laws by seizing Rush's medical records without a search warrant, subverting a process designed to prevent the kind of fishing expedition the prosecutor is engaged in.

Actually, a search warrant was used to seize Rush's records and that's the problem

Florida law specifically says that medical records are to be obtained by subpoena and this was not done.

The legality of that seizure is now in an appeals court and their decision will determine how the case will proceed.

14 posted on 05/29/2004 11:53:34 AM PDT by Ken H
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"The author forgot the pending bar complaint. "

The author also forgot that the holdup now in the investigation is the case of Limbaugh Vs. the State of Florida.

According to Landmark Legal's complaint ( an uneffected complainant)

http://www.landmarklegal.org/latest_developments.cfm?webpage_id=570

it appears to be a "he said - she said".

It's going nowhere...


15 posted on 05/29/2004 10:34:56 PM PDT by RS (Just because they're out to get him doesn't mean he's not guilty)
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"There are some interesting side-posts to this story that cannot be revealed now but one day it will all comeout."

COOL... secrets ! what do you know about the existance or non-existance of "interesting side-points" ?

How do you knoe that these exist ?

If you are privy to some secret info, why do you chose to reveal that there is in fact secret info ?


Enquirering minds want to know !!


16 posted on 05/29/2004 10:39:28 PM PDT by RS (Just because they're out to get him doesn't mean he's not guilty)
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To: longtermmemmory

"For firts timers, drug court is an automatic offer if they want it. "

Almost, but not quite true - the DA must sign off on it.

Here's the contract that alleged perps must agree to -

http://www.dcpi.ncjrs.org/docs/Skills-Based%20Contracts.doc


but you are correct, it appears that unless he is charged with a crime he cannot enter a diversion program.

So all of these " he is not being treated the same " people can just wait until ( or if ) he is charged.


17 posted on 05/29/2004 10:52:53 PM PDT by RS (Just because they're out to get him doesn't mean he's not guilty)
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"Florida law specifically says that medical records are to be obtained by subpoena and this was not done. "

As you well know, not true, Florida law gives situations where records can be obtained under search warrent or with no subpeona or warrant at all.


18 posted on 05/29/2004 11:10:03 PM PDT by RS (Just because they're out to get him doesn't mean he's not guilty)
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As a practical matter perhaps. But the CLERKS office is under instruction to send all first time cases to drug court.

No prosecutor's office can functionally reject a person into drug court who is otherwise eligible without loosing a claim of selective enforcent.

Hello again.

We have covered this before. And we will again.

Rush is a first timer and has a right to drug court as an end user, same as anyone else.


19 posted on 05/29/2004 11:26:59 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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"Rush is a first timer and has a right to drug court as an end user, same as anyone else."

He has the right to drug court depending on the DA's OKee-Dokie, same as anyone else. The DA is not required to sign off on it, nor give any explaination why he does or does not.

If he applies and signs the contract, the DA can agree or not. But that appears to be an argument for a future time, my friend, and I suspect at that time we may be on the same side.


20 posted on 05/29/2004 11:34:42 PM PDT by RS (Just because they're out to get him doesn't mean he's not guilty)
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