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To: Luis Gonzalez
Yep, there is a war and we have a great big fat hole 2,000 miles wide that an operative can pick and choose locations to illegaly enter the u.S. If I were trying to enter another county and there was a border like that to my south, not in my wildest dreams would I consider atempting anything else. That is what is being discused here, illegal border crossing and illegal presence of NON-CITIZENS in the u.S.

And don't give me crap about "it's not about Mexicans, it's about lawbreakers" either, it was you who used "Pedro" and "Jose" when creating your freak fantasy world.

Would you prefer me to use examples such as Clarence and Egbert? Shall we call them "slightly underdocumented migrant/immigrants? And of course they are not "lawbreakers." Just because they entered the country knowing 100% that it is illegal to be here, illegal to apply for benifits available to American citizens and walk around with forged identification, hell no, let's not DARE say out loud that they are lawbreakers. GOOD GRIEF NO!!! We might offend someones feelings.


350 posted on 06/02/2004 1:14:21 PM PDT by TLI (...........ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA..........)
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To: TLI; hchutch; Luis Gonzalez; PRND21
Yep, there is a war and we have a great big fat hole 2,000 miles wide that an operative can pick and choose locations to illegaly enter the u.S.

Plus another 17,900 miles of wide-open frontier that can be used, as well. Again, your CONOPS would require each and every ship within 20 miles of the coast to have 24/7 surveillance on it.

If I were trying to enter another county and there was a border like that to my south, not in my wildest dreams would I consider atempting anything else.

Maybe they're not as smart as you are. Then again, and far more likely, maybe you are not as smart as you think you are.

Kindly note that the "Millenium Bomber" arrest happened at a border checkpoint--but only through blind frickin' luck. Kindly note that the 9/11 hijackers came through border checkpoints with passports and visas. They didn't think at all in terms of crossing the Mexican border illegally.

351 posted on 06/02/2004 1:50:05 PM PDT by Poohbah (Four thousand throats may be cut in a single night by a running man -- Kahless the Unforgettable)
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To: TLI; Poohbah
"If I were trying to enter another county and there was a border like that to my south, not in my wildest dreams would I consider attempting anything else."

So then, why did every one of the 9/11 hijackers enter the country by other means?

As a matter of fact, why did German spies try to infiltrate the US via the coastline rather than over the Rio Grande...I am assuming of course that the border was just as wide back then as it is now.

The fact of the matter is that whether you like it or not, if you try running the border there is a chance that you will get stopped. In Fiscal 2002, nearly one million people were apprehended at the SW border trying to enter the country illegally.

Why would you run the chance of being apprehended, when all you need is a student's visa?

Your wildest dreams are tainted by your obsession with Mexicans.

352 posted on 06/02/2004 8:01:53 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (Sin Pátria, pero sin amo.)
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