I never said that Torvalds physically copied MINIX code. But he most certainly took the ideas directly from MINIX and incorporated them into his code. He didn't invent the ideas. He stood on the shoulders of giants, and then had the audacity to name Linux after himself.
Please name 3 original OS concepts that Microsoft invented.
The author of MINIX says that isn't true... that the design philosophies (microkernel vs monolithic) are very different. So whom are we to believe: you, or the guy who wrote MINIX?
This is just more code-stealing FUD from the Microsoft Corporation. If you're not employed by them, why are you here selling it? This guy Brown has no credibility. He has zero background in the field, and the very people he hired, interviewed, and quoted in the book are denouncing him. This book is trash, crap, and FUD, bought and paid for by a company that finally found a competitor it can't buy, bully, copy or steal.
The only good thing about this latest piece of under-the-table sleazy BS from Microsoft is that it will be over more quickly that the last one. With Bumsteer running so late, maybe they ought to devote more resources to product development and cut back on the BS artists who slime their competitors.
Still repeating that old hash when the evidence contradicts? Remember, "Linux" was his working name. It was to be publically known as "Freax" since he thought "Linux" was too egotistical, but a friend of his used "Linux" when setting the space for the first posting to the net.
You repeat your lie even after I've already told you the truth. Outrageous from most, but expected from you. You've been defending the Brown work the whole time, and even now after its shown we were right in predicting it was a baseless hatchet job with an agenda. You supported his claim that Linux must have had stolen code because it's apparently impossible to write an OS in three months. From you:
Brown is suggesting that it is highly unlikely that Torvalds did it without consulting Unix sources.
First, Torvalds couldn't have consulted UNIX sources because he didn't have the code. He did have as an example how MINIX was built. Admittedly. No conspiracy for you and Brown, no theft, no lack of attribution since his first message stated the Minix heritage.
Tanenbaum took well over a year to write the Minix kernel. And yet we're supposed to believe that Torvalds wrote the Linux kernel in a few months. Uh uh. Sorry. Doesn't wash.
Yes, he wrote it all by himself. No one has ever called into question whether he designed the behavior and file structures because it is admittedly from MINIX. You are either arguing a point of contention that doesn't exist or you are claiming code theft.
It doesn't take a technical literate to tell that Torvalds couldn't write the Linux kernel in 3 months.
Couldn't write. As in not capable of coming up with the code to punch into the editor by himself. The only alternative i can see is stolen code.
Torvalds has denied that he used any sources to write Linux. This just isn't credible, given the brief amount of time that it took to generate that much code.
No, he admitted that his model was MINIX, but all the code is his own, confirmed by Tanenbaum and now Brown's own researcher!
And the kicker!
There's simply no way that he generated that amount of code in that short of a time period without borrowing code from other sources.
If you're the programmer you state you are, you know "Borrowed" in programming means taking it from one place and putting it in another place, and can be copyright infringement. As above, it is now proven that the code was 100% his.
Weaseling won't work. You claimed the code was copied and supported Brown's claim of the same. You let your love for Microsoft and hatred of Linux suck you into believing Brown's hack job.
Now if you're saying only that it was stolen in the sense that Torvalds learned how OSs work and learned how programming works, then you can make the same claim for almost every piece of software ever written, but I don't see you going after Microsoft of course.
Liar. And as I challenged Golden Eagle, show me the code.
Some Notes on the "Who wrote Linux" Kerfuffle, Release 1.2
Posted by Bush2000 to antiRepublicrat
On News/Activism 05/27/2004 10:46:53 AM CDT #426 of 456
(antirepublicrat) "Linus wrote it himself, the owner of the supposedly copied code claims Linus wrote it himself. End of case."
(Bush2000) With one hand on the keyboard and the other hand sifting through somebody else's code.
Hmmmm... I doubt that you'll fail to find some influences on any former computer science student who's now an OS system programmer by Andy Tannenbaum... Or compiler writer, for that matter, since both of his books on the subjects are pretty much considered to be "standards" in most CS curriculems (sp?). BTW, building on the ideas of others IS pretty much standard in the programming world... Otherwise, we'd still be using paper tape, and there'd be no such thing as virtual memory. Don't forget, UNIX was built on top of ideas gained from the MULTICS projects in the first place. But just because someone builds upon, or improves upon an idea of another does NOT mean that theft is involved. Afterall the mouse was "invented" at PARC, but the design of the optical "3d" mouse isn't called theft.
Mark