Moore interviewed Berg for "Fahrenheit" [index to thread at reply #1859]

Salon.com ^ | May 27, 2004 | Rebecca Traister

[woodyinscc]

I wonder what he has to say about the Clinton adm. giving Halliburton contracts in the 90's.!!

[tophat9000]

That doesn't make sense. I doubt it would even occur to the Dad to do such an odd thing. Would you think of signing your kid's name to a petition? Or his (unknown) company? Probably this is an indicator that Nick was in support of ANSWER

Does any one know what date the ANSWER petition was... Because the company got signed up for a CAGE code 6/2002... you need a CAGE Codes to do biz with the DOD.... odd timeing to start protesting the war and look for biz with the DOD

[Carolinamom]

Is there any info as to whether Nick had a camera w/him?

[nunya bidness]

NY Post

Sure, there's some media-grabbing footage - apparently shot by one of the camera crews Moore claims to have smuggled in with embedded troops - of American soldiers laughing as they place hoods over Iraqi prisoners, and one GI touching a detainee's genitals through a blanket.

He's showing footage of prisoners. Wonder where they were being held?

[Ann Archy]

Please forward your info and your links to Howlin as she is going to do the info/research on Berg and give it it's own thread!!

All hands on deck, Freeper Howlin Needs YOU!!

[nunya bidness]

Wonder how it is that Moore just happened upon a woman who's son died.

Follow the link I just posted. I think her son died in Vietnam.

[Ann Archy]

Howlin needs all your info on the Berg/Moussoui/Atta ? bus stuff links and info. and anything else that went on with Berg in OK. that you have.

[Nita Nupress]

We also follows with him the story of Lila, who is an ordinary family mother from Flint, Michigan. We follow her in time : her pride that her kid is a soldier, like many in her family before, then the first doubts of Lila, to, eventually, her son's death and her trip to Washington, while, in the meantime, Moore shows himself trying to recruit, unsuccesfully the senators' kids to go to war in Iraq.

This theme would fit in with the theory some have suggested here that Moore wanted to film/document a Nick Berg who made a miraculous metamorphasis from being pro-war/pro-Bush to anti-war/anti-Bush after spending time in Iraq.

[cyncooper]

So was the 20 minute (isn't that a long time?) clip of Berg cut out before the beheading or after? Was this a politically-motivated editing job?

Moore isn't saying.

From the article:

It was not clear from Moore's statement whether footage from the interview with Berg had ever been included in early cuts of "Fahrenheit 9/11."

[Trinity_Tx]

According to his friends and Nick was fond of studying various languages and cultures. He gets into the phonetics in one of his e-mails, and he also talks about having difficulty communicating with some Arabs.

So you're right... he may not have grasped what they were saying, exactly.

On the other hand... Daniel Perl was offered sedating drugs, as is a common Islamic practice before beheadings. Daniel Perle rejected the drugs, yet even then, he wasn't freaking out either in his video.

Another reason for his "calmness" could be explained by his personality type. Just noting his choice of hobbies and vocation, along with the many and unvaried accounts of his reckless adventure-seeking.

e.g. going on hikes in forests with his friends at night,
refusing to use a flashlight because it wasn't challenging enough,
insisting on stopping to climb rock faces or high towers he came across on drives with friends,
and taking an impulsive trip to Florida - just on his bike.
His friend said he would also choose to ride his bike on long trips rather than drive, just to enjoy the freedom.

[livius]

has anyone found out if ANSWER and Michael Moore are connected.

Also, could Michael Moore possibly have any connections with the "Prometheus Radio Project"? I wonder if that may be the link.

For those who don't know, the Prometheus Project is a left-wing project to establish "guerrilla radio" in third-world countries. It's located in the same town in PA as Berg's Prometheus Methods company, and there was some indication that Nick Berg's aunt or even possibly mother may have been involved in it.

[Howlin]

The film contains previously unseen footage of U.S. soldiers' abuse of Iraqi detainees last Christmas Eve.

**Blink**

[Ann Archy]

Don't forget to ping Howlin with that info.

[Howlin]

That's not the impression I got from your post and from Nita's.

[A Citizen Reporter]

BBC

Oscar-winning director Michael Moore has screened at Cannes what he claims is the first film footage of US soldiers abusing Iraqi prisoners.

It appears in his new documentary, Fahrenheit 9/11 which also explores alleged connections between the Bush and Bin Laden families.

The abuse "occurred in the field - outside the prison walls", Moore told the film festival.

snip

Soldiers in Moore's film were shown outdoors ridiculing a man covered in a blanket on the ground, calling him "Ali Baba".

"It was an older man who was actually drunk, and it was early in the morning, and he was lying on the ground on a stretcher with a blanket over him," Moore said.

The director's movie has been the talk of the festival

"The footage was shot in Samarra in December 2003, he told BBC News Online, but did not reply when asked which military division was involved.

He said it was "disgraceful" that it took him, using stringers and freelance camera crews in Iraq, to bring such footage to the public.

[Howlin]

"It was an older man who was actually drunk, and it was early in the morning, and he was lying on the ground on a stretcher with a blanket over him," Moore said.

At the risk of having my words posted ad nauseum over the entire internet, that's it?

One old drunk? Is that the best he can do? How do they even know he was a prisoner?

[nunya bidness]

From the NY Post link:

By far the best sequence features Lila Lipscomb, a woman from Moore's hometown of Flint, Mich., who lost her Marine son in Vietnam.

But when she tries to go to the White House to express her antiwar feelings, Moore ends up delivering a pallid echo of the high point of "Columbine," where victims of that high school massacre descend on Kmart headquarters to demand that the chain stop selling ammunition.

[Cincinna]

Could you please post the link?

This gets more and more bizarre.

What are the possibilities, coincidence wise, that Nick Berg, Michael Moore. Moussauoui, Zarkawi and the photos at Abu Ghraib , come together ?

Anyone good at statistics or actuarial tables out there?

[Howlin]

Oh, I see; it was either the way I read it or the way it was worded.

[Iwo Jima]

I'd say 100%, if you consider the scenarios posited on this thread.