Posted on 05/27/2004 2:25:23 PM PDT by ATOMIC_PUNK
I wasn't being humorous.
Lots of things lots of people do are not exactly "healthy" but do not get the abuse and junk science heaped upon them the way it is done with smokers and smoking.
So that's my problem????? And all along I thought it was just because I was to lazy to pull out the razor..........
All kidding aside, Delaware used to have a page on one of their websites titled the A to Z's of Smoking......you name it, it was on the list.
What irks me to no end about this latest "list" from the SG is it continues to perpetuate lies that have been shown for that for years. For example cervical cancer is caused by a virus 99% of the time, not by smoking. And the particular virus, HPV, is actually a sexually tranmitted disease.
I like this stat. Since 1964 12,000,000 people have died from smoking. How old were they and what are their names? How many people died in; auto accidents, drownings, shredders, ect....?
ROTFLMAO
Their behavior control hasn't been successful so now we have a bunch of new fears. It's funny how the number of smoking related deaths keeps growing, while the rate of smoking is decreasing. The cigs of today must be the "crack of tobacco"!
As someone else posted - there have been far more abortions than that in less time. and those are all verifiable deaths - not statistics.
"There is also a bizarre host of additives,. . ." Don't know about additives, but here's a list of ingredients. In reality, there are 599 ingredients in a cigarette. Here are just some of those 599…. Particularly GROSS ingredients: -Tar: This ingredient, which gives cigarettes flavor, is the same thick black substance used to pave roads and driveways. formaldehyde's: This is the same stuff used to preserve dead animals, like the frogs dissected in some biology classes. -Cyanide: also a main ingredient in rat poison. -Lead: It's also found in some kinds of paint. -Acetone: a common ingredient in paint and nail polish remover. -Ammonia: Besides the fact that it's in many household cleaners, it's also in cigarettes. -Carbon monoxide: a common pollutant and the same stuff that escapes from the exhaust in cars. -Hydrazine: a chemical used in jets and rocket fuel. Carcinogenic or Cancer Causing Ingredients: Nitrosamines Crysenes Cadmium Benzo(a)pyrene Polonium 210 Polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons (PAHs) Nickel DibenzAcidine B-Napthylamine Urethane N.Nitrosonornicotine Toluidine Metals Aluminum Beryllium Zinc Magnesium Mercury Gold Silicon Silver Titanium Lead Copper And some other gross stuff is in there too… Acetone: Nail Polish Remover Acetic Acid: Vinegar Ammonia: Floor /Toilet Cleaner Arsenic: Poison Benzene Butane: Lighter Fluid Cadmium: NiCad Batteries Carbon Monoxide: Car Exhaust Fumes Cyanide: Metabolic Poison Chloroform: Anesthetic DDT/Dieldrin: Insecticides Ethanol: Alcohol Formaldehyde: Preserver (Body, Tissue and Fabric) Hexamine: Barbecue Lighter Methane: Swamp Gas Methanol: Rocket Fuel Napthalene: Mothballs Nicotine: Insecticide, Addictive Drug Nitrobenzene: Gasoline Additive Nitrous Oxide Phenols : Disinfectant Stearic Acid: Candle Wax Toluene: Industrial Solvent Vinyl Chloride: Makes PVC Also found some interesting quotes, FWIW. By 1836, it was already well-established "that thousands and tens of thousands die of diseases of the lungs generally brought on by tobacco smoking. . . . How is it possible to be otherwise? Tobacco is a poison. A man will die of an infusion of tobacco as of a shot through the head." —Samuel Green, New England Almanack and Farmer's Friend (1836). Yes, "nicotine is a poison."—Brown & Williamson Tobacco Corp. Memo 1978, cited in Georgina Lovell, You Are the Target: Big Tobacco: Lies, Scams—Now the Truth (Vancouver, B.C: Chryan Communications, 2002).
good point - I'd like to know how many people did not die from smoking (related) in the last 40 years...
How many died from being fat, alcholic, drowning, etc..
New Surgeon General warning I'd like to see:
Warning: LIFE will kill you - no telling how or when but you will assuredly die.
good point - I'd like to know how many people did not die from smoking (related) in the last 40 years...
How many died from being fat, alcholic, drowning, etc..
New Surgeon General warning I'd like to see:
Warning: LIFE will kill you - no telling how or when but you will assuredly die.
"Sorry, there's no safe way to drag the products of combustion over some of the most sensitive and fragile tissue in the human body."
Better ban all combustibles, it's for the chilrun don't ya know! No more BBQ's, candle light dinners, cooking, cars or manufacturing. Better get back to the stone age!
"There is also a bizaare host of additives,. . ."
Don't know about additives, but here's a list of ingredients.
In reality, there are 599 ingredients in a cigarette.
Here are just some of those 599….
Particularly GROSS ingredients:
-Tar: This ingredient, which gives cigarettes flavor, is the same thick black substance used to pave roads and driveways.
-Formaldehyde: This is the same stuff used to preserve dead animals, like the frogs dissected in some biology classes.
-Cyanide: also a main ingredient in rat poison.
-Lead: It's also found in some kinds of paint.
-Acetone: a common ingredient in paint and nail polish remover.
-Ammonia: Besides the fact that it's in many household cleaners, it's also in cigarettes.
-Carbon monoxide: a common pollutant and the same stuff that escapes from the exhaust in cars.
-Hydrazine: a chemical used in jets and rocket fuel.
Carcinogenic or Cancer Causing Ingredients:
Nitrosamines
Crysenes
Cadmium
Benzo(a)pyrene
Polonium 210
Polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons (PAHs)
Nickel
DibenzAcidine
B-Napthylamine
Urethane
N.Nitrosonornicotine
Toluidine
Metals
Aluminum
Beryllium
Zinc
Magnesium
Mercury
Gold
Silicon
Silver
Titanium
Lead
Copper
And some other gross stuff is in there too…
Acetone: Nail Polish Remover
Acetic Acid: Vinegar
Ammonia: Floor /Toilet Cleaner
Arsenic: Poison
Benzene
Butane: Lighter Fluid
Cadmium: NiCad Batteries
Carbon Monoxide: Car Exhaust Fumes
Cyanide: Metabolic Poison
Chloroform: Anesthetic
DDT/Dieldrin: Insecticides
Ethanol: Alcohol
Formaldehyde: Preserver (Body, Tissue and Fabric)
Hexamine: Barbecue Lighter
Methane: Swamp Gas
Methanol: Rocket Fuel
Napthalene: Mothballs
Nicotine: Insecticide, Addictive Drug
Nitrobenzene: Gasoline Additive
Nitrous Oxide Phenols : Disinfectant
Stearic Acid: Candle Wax
Toluene: Industrial Solvent
Vinyl Chloride: Makes PVC
Also found some interesting quotes, FWIW.
By 1836, it was already well-established "that thousands and tens of thousands die of diseases of the lungs generally brought on by tobacco smoking. . . . How is it possible to be otherwise? Tobacco is a poison. A man will die of an infusion of tobacco as of a shot through the head." —Samuel Green, New England Almanack and Farmer's Friend (1836).
Yes, "nicotine is a poison."—Brown & Williamson Tobacco Corp. Memo 1978, cited in Georgina Lovell, You Are the Target: Big Tobacco: Lies, Scams—Now the Truth (Vancouver, B.C: Chryan Communications, 2002).
Yeah but smoking deaths are preventable.
I'm sure there are some things smoking is blamed for it has nothing to do with. But, like the case of the bratty kid, all the bad stuff yet to be discovered more than outweighs any present injustice.
Think about it. Add more than a decade to your life by not smoking. That's a lot of birthdays, school plays, soccer games, marriages, and births.
All lethal addictions produce huge amounts of personal dishonesty to relieve the cognitive dissonance, plus the usual foxhole humor to deal with untimely and ugly deaths. Except that this foxhole is one you can step out of at anytime, which makes the humor just part of the usual junkie dishonesty.
I don't think smokers are "abused". I think they, like all junkies, tend to abuse everyone around them, including -- no, especially -- the ones they love the most.
And no, I am not an ex-smoker. And, FWIW, I do not think that much of the present movement to ban smoking on private property is legal or moral.
We had some idiot earlier this week douse himself with kerosene and set himself on fire over a breakup with his girl friend. Last I heard he was still hanging on the edges of life. Since he had a lighter, this will be called smoking related.
"Just be honest with yourselves, folks. Just come out and say "Breathing smoke is more important to me than seeing 13 years of my children and grandkids' lives."
Do you support government intervention to ensure that individuals will be able to "see 13 years of their children and grandkids' lives"? If so, would you also advocate government intervention in eating habits? If not, what gives you the authority to be so judgemental over other's choices?
Your list is proof that the damage occurs from a specific level of exposure. Smoking tobacco does not raise any of those potential toxins to the levels that are damaging. If they did, we would see people keeling over after smoking a cigarette.
No.
I can not believe and self-respecting FReeper would quote anything from that windbag. She is the queen of distortion...........I have been quite familiar with her and her work for several years.
she is known for her "tar jar" that she brings to schools to lie to students about her "research"....it's a quart canning jar with mollasses in it that she claims is tar - not representative of tar but tar.
The list of her lies and distortions goes on and on.
One of her sycophants have been cyber stalking myself and a few other folks for a few years --- and particularly likes seeking my posts on FR to post on other message boards - after taking them totally out of context.
So, what gives you the authority to be so judgemental of other's choices?
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