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Dieter Sues Atkins Estate and Company (Hyperlipidemia alert)
New York Times ^ | May 27, 2004 | Marion Burros

Posted on 05/26/2004 9:59:45 PM PDT by Rennes Templar

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"Within two months after going off the Atkins diet, where his favorite foods were cheese every day and cheesecake three times a week, his cholesterol dropped to 146."

I don't care what kind of diet you're on. You can't eat like that and expect to have a healthy cardiovasular system.

1 posted on 05/26/2004 9:59:45 PM PDT by Rennes Templar
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To: Rennes Templar

Oooh, this'll be an ugly thread.


2 posted on 05/26/2004 10:04:38 PM PDT by inkling
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To: Rennes Templar

The guidelines in the book state you are supposed to stay on the induction phase for 2 weeks, not two years.

No one was ever told to pig out like that.


3 posted on 05/26/2004 10:04:53 PM PDT by Cincinna (Beware HILLARY and her HINO)
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To: inkling

Well it was kind of a slow night...


4 posted on 05/26/2004 10:06:38 PM PDT by Rennes Templar
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To: Rennes Templar

"Hyperlipidemia," hmm? How about "lazy glutton syndrome"?


5 posted on 05/26/2004 10:11:01 PM PDT by MegaSilver (Training a child in red diapers is the cruelest and most unusual form of abuse.)
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Well it was kind of a slow night...

LOL!

6 posted on 05/26/2004 10:17:21 PM PDT by inkling
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First, who the hell goes on a diet when they weigh 148??? (Let me at 'em, I'll kill him! ;)

Second, there have been medical tests that show that if you follow the diet, your triglicerides (fat levels) and bad cholesterol levels actually go down dramatically as your body starts burning fat instead of the missing carbs -and your good cholesterol, HDL, goes up...

Not that I would know... much. ;)


7 posted on 05/26/2004 10:21:40 PM PDT by philsoc
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If he was eating cheeseCAKE he was not following Atkins. It has way too many carbs. People who *actually follow* the program lose weight and improve their blood chemistry simultaneously.

The problem is that Atkins is counterintuitive -- the idea that you can lose fat by eating fat, SOUNDS impossible and crazy at first. Many people never get past this first impression. But it's based on sound biochemistry, and it works -- it absolutely works -- and for many people, it is the ONLY way that works. All the standard gov't-approved low-fat diets that Atkin's detractors would prefer we follow, are precisely what made us fat in the first place. Atkins worked when nothing else did.

I think that, in response to this suit, all the millions of us who gained weight on all the standard diets (in many cases, including mine, despite heavy exercise -- carbloading destroyed my running career), ought to sue all the lowfat peddlers. Bankrupt Pritikin!

8 posted on 05/26/2004 10:21:49 PM PDT by Rytwyng (we're here, we're Huguenots, get used to us)
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So a vegan group is helping out with that lawsuit, eh? No hidden agenda there! (MY cholesterol dropped so much - after Atkins/low-carbing for over two years - that my doctor was completely amazed when she compared the before and after lab results last week. Thanks to eggs, cheese, beef and plenty of margarine!)


9 posted on 05/26/2004 10:22:37 PM PDT by Moonmad27 (Imagine our country under the "leadership" of a President Kerry. Scary, isn't it?! Vote W in 04!)
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To: inkling

PETA front group


10 posted on 05/26/2004 10:24:06 PM PDT by cyborg
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To: Rennes Templar
Before starting the diet, he said, tests showed that his arteries were clear.

Why did he have his coronary arteries tested BEFORE starting the diet? This is not a normal test done in the absence of symptoms... like chest pain. Doctors do not prescribe invasive tests, and health insurers won't pay for the tests, in the absence of symptoms. Something is fishy.

140 pounds to 148 pound gain prompted him to go on Atkins???? He would have lost this amount in the first month on Atkins. Something is Phishy.

Something is physhy here... and it smells like Physicians for Responsible Medicine which is a front organization for PETA, People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals.

12 posted on 05/26/2004 10:32:15 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tagline shut down for renovations and repairs. Re-open June of 2001.)
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Last time I looked it has a weee bit of sugar in it.

There are some low-carb versions that are pretty tasty. Not as good as the best I remember, but pretty good nonetheless.

13 posted on 05/26/2004 10:33:48 PM PDT by supercat (Why is it that the more "gun safety" laws are passed, the less safe my guns seem?)
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148 pounds?

I haven't weighed 148 pounds since I was a junior in high school.

14 posted on 05/26/2004 10:35:11 PM PDT by sinkspur (Adopt a dog or a cat from an animal shelter! It will save one life, and may save two.)
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Started Atkins on March 24th. I had been on steroids on and off for a couple of years and was unable to get rid of the weight gain. Further, I have familial hypercholesterolism with triglycerides in the 600s. As of last week I had lost 20lbs (with 18 to go for a BMI of 24), triglyceride levels have dropped to 200 and have finally begun to register a significant HDL increase.

I think PETA and their NYT enablers need to take a hike before some dieters target them for a lawsuit.
15 posted on 05/26/2004 10:37:05 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberalism is a Hate Crime)
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The guidelines in the book state you are supposed to stay on the induction phase for 2 weeks, not two years.

I was put on the induction for two weeks by my doctor after a diagnosis of PCOS. After two weeks I'd lost 15 lbs, my cholest. has dropped, my bp had gone from high to perfect, my acne had started to clear up, my hair stopped falling out and I was feeling better than I had in months. Since that time I try to keep my carbs down to less than 100 g a day and I go low carb for a week or two every time I start to get symptoms. (that's about two or three times a year) I take my vitamins, minerals and fluids and try to use common sense.

People are very good at hearing what they want to hear.

16 posted on 05/26/2004 10:39:12 PM PDT by Marie (My head hurts from smacking it on the desk.)
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To: Rytwyng

True. The biggest fallacy in dieting has been that fat causes weight gain and increased lipids. Its not fat, but sugar, ie carbohydrates. I could go into all the biochemistry, but basically sugar makes fat sticky. Take some Coke or a doughnut and rub some in between your finger tips. They get all gooey. Same happens inside.


18 posted on 05/26/2004 10:45:54 PM PDT by Rennes Templar
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To: Rennes Templar
Hyperlipidemia alert)




Sounds more like a venereal disease
19 posted on 05/26/2004 10:52:31 PM PDT by WKB (3!~ What we need is more "Christianity in politics" and less "Politics in Christianity")
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Cheese and cheesecake aren't in the induction phase. Cheesecake three times a week isn't on the menu ever, as far as I know.

If this stupid lawsuit goes through, I'm gonna drink three cases of Dr. Pepper each day to wash down the chocolate covered donuts I'm gonna eat every hour on the hour. I'm gonna call this my version of the "American Diabetes Association Diet". Then I'm gonna sue the American Diabetes Association...


20 posted on 05/26/2004 11:14:50 PM PDT by dandelion
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