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Electoral College Breakdown 2004, May 26th Update
ECB2004 ^ | 5/26/04

Posted on 05/26/2004 4:14:59 PM PDT by Dales

I Wouldn't Touch It With a 10 Foot Poll

Breaking Conventional Wisdom

Democrats are feeling pretty good about their chances in the Presidential election, and not without reason. Bush's approval ratings have famously descended to the low 40s, and as Susan Estrich and various other Democrats have been gleefully pointing out, no incumbent since the advent of polling has been re-elected with approval numbers this low, this late. Pollster John Zogby has declared that the race is Kerry's to lose. James Carville has written that it is over. Dick Morris suggests that Bush is in serious, serious trouble. Sure the race is close now, pretty much everyone admits, but the developing common perception is that it may not remain so for very long (a view that I have stated as my own, although I remain unconvinced over the direction it will break). The candidates' behavior, however, tells a different story.

At this stage in 2000, it looked as if the election was Bush's to lose. He led comfortably in the state-by-state polling, and had a popular vote lead according to matchup polls as well. Bush acted as if he believed his position was as strong as it appeared. The fact that his confidence was somewhat misplaced does little to change the fact that when a candidate believes he is destined to win, he starts to try to set himself up for success in governing. His campaign was spending on advertising on states which were considered to be strongly Democratic, such as California, hoping to score a decisive mandate in the election. When it came to choosing a running mate, he eschewed selecting someone who could help swing a particular state's electoral votes his direction, instead choosing to pick someone he felt would help him govern.

While Senator Kerry's advisors and spokespeople are talking extreme confidence (claiming that the election is his to lose, for example), some of his recent behaviors suggest that he does not believe the hype. One such indicator is his running mate selection process. Kerry's campaign has made overtures to Republicans such as John McCain and Chuck Hagel. It strikes me that a candidate who believes he is going to win would be looking within his own party, rather than looking for someone who could shake up the dynamics of the race. Beyond the flirtations with certain Republicans, other names on Kerry's reported short-list include John Edwards, Dick Gephardt, Tom Vilsack, Bob Graham, Bill Nelson, Jeanne Shaheen, and Bill Richardson. With the exception of Edwards, each one of these possibilities comes from a recognized swing state, and a recent poll shows that Edwards could make it a race in North Carolina. The makeup of the names being floated by Kerry suggests that he is not convinced he is going to win without help.

By comparison, President Bush has so far resisted any temptation to bolster his ticket by replacing Dick Cheney, a switch that could be made without too much difficulty with an explanation that health concerns necessitated the move. If the President felt sure that he was heading towards defeat unless he shook things up, then odds are he would make such a move.

Kerry is also still trying to be all things to all people. As the Washington Post reports, a Kerry aide briefed reporters that Kerry told Ralph Nader "Don't judge me by the people who preceded me. You may have had a disagreement with Bill Clinton, or Al Gore, or the Democrat leadership in Congress... but that's not me. I have fought with you, I have been with you on a range of issues." That is compared to earlier this year, when Kerry included in a speech that "If you liked what Bill Clinton gave you in eight years, you'll love what John Kerry will give you in the first four." He assures gay rights activists in private that he is committed to their issues, but his advisors say, according to the Washington Post, that "a strong public defense of gay marriage could undermine the candidate's appeal in culturally conservative states." This is similar to his approach to the pre-war debate on Iraq, where he took both sides on the issue, and on the funding for the war, where he voted for it before he voted against it. The essence of this approach is getting different groups to believe different things about what his intentions are, which is inherently a campaign tactic and not an approach one takes when preparing to govern. In each case where he is trying to be different things to different groups, one of the groups will end up disappointed in his governance should he be elected; one does not set up groups for alienation in this regard unless one thinks it may be necessary in order to win the office. The fact that he is continuing this style of campaigning suggests he has yet to decide that he can safely switch to a mode where he is preparing to govern.

Another indication is in his decision to play footloose and fancy-free with campaign finance law, declaring that he is not going to let his campaign be put at a disadvantage because of legal technicalities such as accepting his nomination when nominated. Again, this is the action of a candidate who believes he is in a dogfight, not the action of a candidate who is expecting to win handily and therefore does not need to take chances.

None of this is to say that his position is not strong; it is. While for well over a year the Bush campaign had been trying to set expectations low, saying that they expected to be tied or slightly behind at this point, it is hard to imagine that was anything more than trying to set it up so that he could be exceeding expectations by now. Given the strong improvement in the economy over the past several months, it has to be very disappointing to Karl Rove and company to not have opened a bit of a lead (and if Zogby Interactive is to be believed, fallen considerably behind, although his battleground poll results are disputed by the results from Gallup, Rasmussen and Fox Opinion Dynamics).

Still, those who are expecting a Kerry blowout at this point are getting ahead of themselves, as are those who are dismissing Bush's chances in states where he is currently polling surprisingly strongly. Which brings me once again to my favorite state of this campaign season. The Columbia Journalism Review writes that New Jersey, despite polls showing it to be relatively close, should not be considered a winnable state for the Republicans.

More importantly, however, the New-Jersey-as-battleground hype ignores the fact that, in 2000, while Gore ultimately crushed Bush, early polls 2000 depicted a close race. In early May of that year, American Research Group found Gore receiving 45 percent, Bush 44 percent, and 11 percent undecided. In June 2000, a Quinnipiac poll had Gore at 41 percent, Bush 37 percent, and Nader 7 percent. That same month Mason-Dixon Polling & Research released a poll that measured Gore's support at 42 percent, Bush's at 40 percent, and Nader's at 4 percent, and a Gannett New Jersey Poll suggested a Bush victory with the Republican out dueling Gore 35 percent to 34 percent (29 percent were undecided).

Then, in August 2000, Gannet measured Bush's lead at 8 percent, before the numbers miraculously shifted in the middle of month giving Gore a 10 percent lead.

Simply stated, the early polls out of New Jersey have not proven to be accurate forecasts of the November vote. Rather, they have proven to be entirely unreliable. (This holds for non-presidential elections also. For example, in 1996, a Star-Ledger/Eagleton-Rutgers Poll administered just days before the election depicted a dead heat between the Republican candidate Dick Zimmer and the Democratic candidate Bob Torricelli at 41 percent and 42 percent, respectively. But, when the votes were tallied on Election Day, Torricelli defeated Zimmer by a ten-point margin, 53 percent to 43 percent.)

I tracked the polls for all the states in 2000, much as I am doing here. The polls told a story-- the state was close, then opened up towards Gore after the Democrat convention. The different phases of the campaign were validated by several polling companies, all getting similar results (with the occasional outlier, such as that one Gannett poll, which was obvious even at the time of its release as being one).

Will New Jersey follow the same pattern this year? It certainly could. However, I am not nearly as certain it will as the Columbia Journalism Review. People do not say they are undecided without reason (obviously, some do but I am talking about in general). People say they are undecided because they have not made up their mind. And New Jersey voters are notorious for making up their minds late, and no party has a monopoly on which way the late-breakers go. It has been race dependent.

Race Poll Date Poll Result Other/Undecided % Final Result Difference
1992 President 11/1/92 Clinton 42, Bush 30, Perot 18 10 Clinton 43, Bush 41, Perot 16 Clinton +1, Bush +11, Perot -2
1993 Governor 10/31/93 Florio 48, Whitman 39 13 Whitman 49, Florio 48 Whitman +10, Florio +0
1994 Senate 11/6/94 Lautenberg 49, Haytaian 35 16 Lautenberg 50, Haytaian 47 Lautenberg +1, Haytaian +12
1996 Senate 11/3/96 Torricelli 42, Zimmer 41 17 Torricelli 53, Zimmer 43 Torricelli +11, Zimmer +2
1996 President 11/3/96 Clinton 45, Dole 34, Perot 7 14 Clinton 53, Dole 36, Perot Clinton +8, Dole +2, Perot +2
1997 Governor 11/2/97 Whitman 45, McGreevey 36 19 Whitman 47, McGreevey 46 Whitman +2, McGreevey +10
2000 President 10/29/00 Gore 53, Bush 39, Nader 5 3 Gore 56, Bush 40 Gore +3, Bush +1, Nader -2
2000 Senate 10/29/00 Corzine 49, Franks 39 12 Corzine 50, Franks 47 Corzine +1, Franks +8
2001 Governor 11/4/01 McGreevey 53, Schundler 36 11 McGreevey 56, Schundler 42 McGreevey +3, Schundler +6
2002 Senate 11/3/02 Lautenberg 52, Forrester 40 8 Lautenberg 54, Forrester 44 Lautenberg +2, Forrester +4

There are a few things that can be gleaned from this chart. First, a high percentage of New Jersey voters do decide late. In all but two of these races, the percentage of voters that had not specified one of the top candidates in the poll released right before the election was in double digits. Second, the late deciders do not always go towards the Democrats. In the 1993 Governor, 1994 Senate, 2000 Senate, 2001 Governor and 2002 Senate race, the late breakers all went towards the Republicans by at least a 2-1 margin, as compared to the 1996 Senate, 1997 Governor, and 2000 Presidential race where they went to the Democrats by at last a 3-1 margin. Third, the state does tend to support Democrats although Republicans can make it close and even win if they get enough of the late breaking vote.

Another thing that jumps out on this chart is that the 2000 Presidential race was not like the others; where the fewest undecideds in the other races was just under 10 points, for the Bush/Gore/Nader contest there were only 3%. While they remained undecided for the Senate race that year (and broke towards Republican Bob Franks) they had decided earlier in the Presidential race that they were going to go with Vice President Gore. As the Columbia Journalism Review noted, the decision point seemed to be sometime around mid-August. Prior to that, the state was close and could have gone either way. The Columbia Journalism Review sarcastically declared this shift to be 'miraculous'. But was it? There is an obvious reason why this shift occurred and why it occurred when it did: on August 8th, Gore selected Connecticut Senator Joseph Lieberman to be his running mate. As anyone familiar with the New York City media market can attest, Lieberman is a tri-state favorite.

In 2004, it is unlikely that Senator Kerry is going to try for a little Joe-mentum, so those expecting a similar shift in Jersey sentiment after the Democrat convention are bound to be disappointed. Instead, the more probable way the race in New Jersey is going to play out is that the race will remain closer than people expect, with a high percentage of New Jerseyites refusing to tip their hand as to which way they will go. In order to win the state, Bush will have to capture these coy voters by a significant margin-- a daunting task, and one which he should not be expected to accomplish, but a task that is not as impossible as conventional wisdom suggests. After all, in a year where Democrats nationwide were scoring tremendous success in the Senate, and in a year where Gore/Lieberman were demolishing Bush/Cheney, nondescript Bob Franks came within merely 3% of pulling it off.

One thing that is noticeable from the above chart is that three of the biggest captures of the late deciders came when an incumbent was involved (Whitman's late charge against Florio, Hayatian's surge against Lautenberg, and McGreevey's run at Whitman). This meshes with a bit of polling conventional wisdom, namely that the late deciding vote generally runs against the incumbent. Dick Morris has been saying of late that this is yet another reason to consider Bush to be in very deep trouble, since in most states he is polling below 50%. But does that hold true on the Presidential level? Within New Jersey, the answer is no. In 1992, the incumbent George H.W. Bush did 11 points better than the final poll, suggesting he captured nearly all of the late deciders. In 1996, Clinton took more of them by a 4-1 ratio over Dole.

The "challengers take the undecideds" theorem has not held true on the national level, either, as the following table shows (all data from Gallup).

Year Race 1 Month Out Next To Last Poll Result Verdict
1936 Incumbent FDR vs. Landon FDR 51, Landon 44 FDR 54, Landon 43 FDR 61, Landon 37 Broke towards incumbent.
1940 Incumbent FDR vs. Willkie FDR 51, Willkie 42 FDR 51, Willkie 42 FDR 55, Willkie 45 Broke evenly.
1944 Incumbent FDR vs. Dewey FDR 47, Dewey 45 FDR 47, Dewey 45 FDR 53, Dewey 46 Broke towards incumbent.
1948 Incumbent Truman vs. Dewey Dewey 46, Truman 40 Dewey 50, Truman 45 Truman 50, Dewey 45 Broke towards the incumbent.
1952 No incumbents. Democrats the incumbent party. Ike vs. Stevenson Ike 51, Stevenson 38 Ike 48, Stevenson 39 Ike 55, Stevenson 44 Broke evenly.
1956 Incumbent Ike vs. Stevenson Ike 51, Stevenson 41 Ike 51, Stevenson 41 Ike 57, Stevenson 42 Broke towards incumbent.
1960 No incumbent President. Incumbent VP Nixon vs. Kennedy Kennedy 49, Nixon 45 Kennedy 49, Nixon 45 Kennedy 50, Nixon 50 Broke for incumbent VP.
1964 Incumbent LBJ vs. Goldwater LBJ 64, Goldwater 29 LBJ 64, Goldwater 29 LBJ 61, Goldwater 38 Broke towards challenger.
1968 No incumbents. Democrats the incumbent party. Humphrey vs. Nixon Nixon 43, Humphrey 31 Nixon 44, Humphrey 36 Nixon 43, Humphrey 43 Broke towards incumbent party.
1972 Incumbent Nixon vs. McGovern Nixon 60, McGovern 34 Nixon 59, McGovern 36 Nixon 61, McGovern 38 Broke evenly.
1976 Incumbent Ford vs. Carter Carter 47, Ford 41 Carter 48, Ford 44 Carter 50, Ford 48 Slight break towards incumbent.
1980 Incumbent Carter vs. Reagan Carter 47, Reagan 39 Carter 47, Reagan 39 Reagan 51, Carter 41 Broke strongly towards challenger. So did some of the decideds.
1984 Incumbent Reagan vs. Mondale Reagan 58, Mondale 38 Reagan 56, Mondale 39 Reagan 59, Mondale 41 Broke evenly.
1988 No incumbent President. Incumbent VP Bush vs. Dukakis Bush 49, Dukakis 43 Bush 53, Dukakis 39 Bush 53, Dukakis 46 Broke evenly from a month out. Broke slightly towards challenger from the 2nd to last poll.
1992 Incumbent Bush vs. Clinton Clinton 47, Bush 29 Clinton 43, Bush 36 Clinton 43, Bush 38 Broke towards incumbent.
1996 Incumbent Clinton vs. Dole Clinton 48, Dole 39 Clinton 52, Dole 41 Clinton 49, Dole 41 Broke evenly.
2000 No incumbent President. Incumbent VP Gore vs. Bush Bush 48, Gore 43 Bush 47, Gore 45 Gore 48, Bush 48 Broke towards incumbent VP.

With only three exceptions, the incumbent party's candidate did at least as well as the challenger with the late breaking vote, and usually did a lot better. The three exceptions? Barry Goldwater and Mike Dukakis each made small gains while remaining considerably behind in an impending crushing defeat. Ronald Reagan proved to be the exception to every rule, winning not only the undecideds but also taking away considerable support from Jimmy Carter during the last weeks of the 1980 election.

Despite the rhetoric being floated by the Carvilles and Zogbys of the world, the race has not been decided, not even in states such as New Jersey. This is not news to either campaign. Both continue to behave as if there is a battle royale engaged, and they are correct in that assumption. For while all three incumbents whose approval ratings were under 50 lost, other aspects of those races do not match up with the current race.

Bush is not sitting pretty, but he is not in as dire a position as any of the three defeated incumbents since World War II. And if he does fall into the high 30s in Gallup's horserace question, he can always look to his dad, who inhabited those nether regions for a few months against Mike Dukakis before triumphing.

Over a month ago, I stated my view that the coming election was likely to end up not being close with regards to the electoral college-- but I had no idea which way it would go. My opinion is unchanged. All it takes is a quick look at the map and one can see how easy it would be for either man to collect an electoral landslide. Kerry would just need to have Zogby Interactive's numbers be real while holding serve elsewhere. And Bush would just need to have SurveyUSA be right in California and then move there and NJ by just a point or two. Oddly, while unlikely, both could happen concurrently which would make for one of the most surprising campaigns ever-- and a very tight race yet again.


This Week's Polling Updates Overview

New Jersey and Florida remained tight. Kerry nosed into a lead in Pennsylvania. A few Bush states strengthened. And California polled more like one would expect.

Oh, and Zogby released a whole bunch of polls that even he said are not representative, showing Kerry winning mostly everywhere.

Other than that, it was a relatively quiet week for the ECB. Of all those moves and polls, none struck me as noteworthy except for one: Pennsylvania. If in fact Kerry has moved ahead there, then it would put him in a much stronger position, and Bush's margins for error become quite narrow. ECB has the tally standing at Bush 211, Kerry 198 but for the first time this election season my sense of things is that Kerry actually has the overall advantage. This is reflected with his 255-227 lead with tossups included (a measure I usually do not pay much attention to), his 262-177 lead in ECB Classic (229-196 without Zogby Interactive), and his 320-218 ECB Classic with tossups lead (Bush does lead 277-255 sans Zogby there). The current calculated popular result is 45.4% for Bush, 44.2% for Kerry. As for the battlegrounds:

State 2000 Result Media Battleground Current Status
Florida Bush +0.01 Yes Tossup
New Mexico Gore +0.06 Yes Tossup
Wisconsin Gore +0.2 Yes Kerry, Slight
Iowa Gore +0.3 Yes Kerry, Slight
Oregon Gore +0.4 Yes Kerry, Slight
New Hampshire Bush +1 Yes Kerry, Slight
Minnesota Gore +2 Yes Kerry, Lean
Ohio Bush +4 Yes Kerry, Lean
Nevada Bush +4 Yes Bush, Lean
Pennsylvania Gore +4 Yes Kerry, Slight
Michigan Gore +5 Yes Tossup
Arkansas Bush +5 Yes Bush, Slight
Arizona Bush +6 Yes Bush, Slight
West Virginia Bush +6 Yes Bush, Lean
New Jersey Gore +16 No Kerry, Slight


F New Jersey
Electoral Votes: 15
2000 Result
Gore 56%
Bush 40%

Background: New Jersey used to be considered a Republican state. Those days have passed, although there are still some signs of life. In the last 10 Presidential elections it has gone 1-6-3 with the Republican wins coming in the middle, the last Clinton win and the Gore win were by such substantial margins that it is hard to avoid the feeling that New Jersey is trending leftward.

If New Jersey remains tight enough to stay in the battleground, it is a case of back to the future. ECB2000 started with it leaning Gore's way. The Democrats have 7 of 13 Representatives and both Senate seats, control both chambers of the state legislature, hold all of the important executive offices, and have a 25%-19% advantage in voter registration.

Polling Data:

Date Polling Company Link Type MOE Republican Democrat Margin
9/8/03 Rutgers Link 802 Adults 3.5% Bush 43% Unnamed Democrat 35% Bush +8
9/15/03 Fairleigh Dickinson University/Public Mind Link 600 RV 4% Bush 36% Unnamed Democrat 29% Bush +7
9/25/03 Quinnipiac Link RV 3.1% Bush 48% Kerry 43% Bush +5
11/10/03 Quinnipiac Link 1,027 RV 3.1% Bush 46% Kerry 43% Bush +3
1/11/04 Fairleigh Dickinson University/Public Mind Link 600 RV 4% Bush 40% Unnamed Democrat 32% Bush +8
1/13/04 Rutgers Link 823 RV 4.2% Bush 41% Unnamed Democrat 38% Bush +3
4/10/04 Fairleigh Dickinson University/Public Mind Link 802 RV, Nader not an option 3.5% Bush 47% Kerry 48% Kerry +1
4/10/04 Fairleigh Dickinson University/Public Mind Link 802 RV, Nader an option 3.5% Bush 48% Kerry 44% Bush +4
4/20/04 Rasmussen Link 500 LV 4.5% Bush 39% Kerry 51% Kerry +12
5/4/04 Rutgers / Eagleton Link 643 RV 4% Bush 37% Kerry 43% Kerry +6
5/16/04 Quinnipiac Link 1,129 RV, Nader not an option 2.9% Bush 44% Kerry 47% Kerry +3
5/16/04 Quinnipiac Link 1,129 RV, Nader an option 2.9% Bush 43% Kerry 46% Kerry +3

Punditry: Slight Advantage for Kerry. Those who read ECB regularly were the first to know that New Jersey was showing signs of being different this year.

The numbers here are just plain weird. Kerry has a net negative unfavorability rating of -1, and only 13% say they haven't heard enough to form an opinion, but he has only a 27% favorability rating. I have never seen it where people say they know a candidate but still cannot decide if they approve or not.

Bush's numbers are no less strange. He has a net negative approval rating of -8 (44-52), but he gets the vote of almost every single person who approves of him. There simply is not a lot of room for growth there.

The combination of numbers here, along with a lack of Senate races and no Gubernatorial rating, hints that this could be a low turnout race in New Jersey.


Florida
Electoral Votes: 27
2000 Result
Bush 48.85%
Gore 48.84%

Background: Despite the best efforts of the results-oriented Florida Supreme Court, Bush held on to win the state in 2000, just as every recount conducted afterwards validated. Did you know that since 1948, though, that only three times has Florida gone for the Democrat candidate? Johnson got 51%, Carter got 52%, and Clinton (2nd term) got 48% (with Perot taking 9%). More times than not, the Republican has come closer to 60%. Why Bush underperformed here to such a degree is something his campaign must rectify.

In the first ECB of 2000, Florida was listed as a battleground with a slight advantage to Gore. This time around, it is starting with a slight advantage for Bush. Florida has 6 Democrat Representatives and 18 Republicans. Both chambers of the state legislature are controlled by the Republicans. Republicans control most of the executive branch. However, both Senate seats are held by Democrats. As of Dec. 1, 2003, the state registration was 41.9% Democrat and 38.6% Republican.

Polling Data:

Date Polling Company Link Type MOE Republican Democrat Margin
4/29/03 Mason-Dixon Link RV 5% Bush 53% Unnamed Democrat 38% Bush +15
12/3/03 Schroth & Associates Link 800 RV 3.5% Bush 43% Unnamed Democrat 37% Bush +6
1/15/04 Rasmussen Reports Link LV 5% Bush 47% Unnamed Democrat 45% Bush +2
2/27/04 Research 2000 Link 500 LV 4% Bush 47% Kerry 42% Bush +5
3/4/04 American Research Group Link 600 LV 4% Bush 44% Kerry 45% Kerry +1
3/4/04 Schroth & Associates Link 800 RV 3.5% Bush 43% Kerry 49% Kerry +6
3/14/04 Rasmussen Link 400 LV 5% Bush 45% Kerry 48% Kerry +3
4/1/04 Mason-Dixon Link 625 RV 4% Bush 51% Kerry 43% Bush +8
4/13/04 Rasmussen Reports Link 500 LV 5% Bush 46% Kerry 47% Kerry +1
4/21/04 American Research Group Link 600 LV 4% Bush 46% Kerry 45% Bush +1
5/9/04 Hamilton, Beattie and Staff (D) Link 1000 LV 3% Bush 47% Kerry 50% Kerry +3
5/19/04 American Research Group Link 600 LV 4% Bush 47% Kerry 46% Bush +1

Punditry: Florida remains a Tossup. Kerry leads, according to ARG, 47-40% among voters not affiliated with a major party, while Bush runs stronger among Republicans than Kerry does against Democrats. This difference in intraparty support is a trend I am starting to notice among several states (see also New Jersey). This has a good news/bad news dichotomy to it-- something for both parties to cheer and fear.


F Pennsylvania
Electoral Votes: 21
2000 Result
Gore 51%
Bush 46%

Background: Democrats have won this state 6 of the last 10 elections, with the first of Clinton's wins being attributable to Ross Perot being on the ballot (19%). Typically, the races in the Keystone state have been close. Pennsylvania started as leaning Bush last time, but has drifted to where it has a slight advantage for the Democrats. Republicans hold a 12-7 advantage in the numbers of Representatives, and hold both Senate seats. They also hold both chambers of the state legislature. The Democrats hold the major executive branch positions except for Attorney General, and have a significant registration advantage (48%-42%).

Polling Data:

Date Polling Company Link Type MOE Republican Democrat Margin
5/13/03 Quinnipiac Link 952 RV 3.2% Bush 56% Kerry 34% Bush +22
10/9/03 Quinnipiac Link 1,116 RV 3% Bush 50% Kerry 43% Bush +7
11/23/03 Muhlenberg College Link 430 RV 4.7% Bush 47% Kerry 40% Bush +7
12/14/03 Quinnipiac Link 1,092 RV 3% Bush 50% Kerry 42% Bush +8
2/18/04 Quinnipiac Ling 1,356 RV 2.7% Bush 45% Kerry 50% Dem +5
2/22/04 Keystone Poll Link 392 RV 4.9% Bush 46% Kerry 47% Dem +1
3/?/04 Muhlenberg College Link RV ?% Bush ?% Kerry ?% Push
3/3/04 Pennsylvania Public Mind Link 1750 Adults 2.4% Bush 45% Kerry 47% Kerry +2
3/11/04 Survey USA Link 802 RV 3.5% Bush 47% Kerry 49% Kerry +2
3/15/04 Qunnipiac Link 1,022 RV (Nader not given as an option) 3 Bush 44% Kerry 45% Kerry +1
3/15/04 Qunnipiac Link 1,022 RV (Nader given as an option) 3% Bush 44% Kerry 40% Bush +4
3/16/04 Rasmussen Link 500 LV 4.5% Bush 44% Kerry 45% Kerry +1
3/29/04 Keystone Poll Link 565 RV 4.1% Bush 46% Kerry 40% Bush +6
4/19/04 Quinnipiac Link 769 RV, Nader not an option 3.5% Bush 46% Kerry 42% Bush +4
4/19/04 Quinnipiac Link 769 RV, Nader an option 3.5% Bush 45% Kerry 39% Bush +6
4/25/04 Pew Research Link 867 RV 4% Bush 42% Kerry 42% Push
5/3/04 Bennett, Petts, And Blumenthal (D) Link LV 4% Bush 43% Kerry 49% Kerry +6
5/14/04 Muhlenberg College Link 400 RV 5% Bush 43% Kerry 48% Kerry +5

Punditry: Very similar results to the partisan Democrat poll, so they validate each other. During the timeframe of this poll, the Rasmussen premium tracking poll of MI/PA/OH was showing that Kerry had been doing well in that three state region, again providing a validation (those numbers subsequently have moved closer to equilibrium). This result is right on the border between lean and slight, and an argument could be made either way. The arguments for leaning Kerry are that there are three polls in the time period (Muhlenberg's, a portion of the Rasmussen OH/MI/PA tracking, and the partisan Bennett poll) showing Kerry leading by about 1 spread of the MoE. The arguments for slight Kerry are that only one of those was a complete non-partisan Pennsylvania poll, the preceding polls showed Bush ahead or tied, and the OH/MI/PA tracking numbers did not maintain their position. When in doubt, call it a horserace and if it is not we will know soon enough and move it further. Slight Advantage for Kerry.

A nit to pick: the article linked correctly reports that given the sample size, the calculated MoE is 4.9%, but fails to consider that when the numbers are rounded off to the nearest percent, the MoE must be as well- the significant digits should match. And a further note, the article mentions a March Muhlenberg poll I did not have, showing a dead heat. I still was unable to find any details about that poll, but I did add it to my chart.


F

Indiana
Electoral Votes: 11
2000 Result
Bush 57%
Gore 41%

Background: This is a Republican state. While LBJ did beat Goldwater, you have to go back to

Franklin Roosevelt's second election to find another instance of the Democrats carrying the state. With

significant help from Perot, Clinton twice got within 6-7%, but beyond that the closest it has been is when

Carter was within 8% of Ford.

Polling Data:

Date Polling Company Link Type MOE Republican Democrat Margin
2/15/04 SurveyUSA Link 525 RV 4.2% Bush 51% Unnamed Democrat 45% Bush +6
3/24/04 Bellwether Poll Link 600 LV 4.0% Bush 52% Kerry 37% Bush +15
5/19/04 Selzer & Co. Link 540 LV 4% Bush 54% Kerry 33% Bush +21

Punditry: That popping sound you heard was Evan Bayh's VP chances exploding; with numbers like

this he could not help bring Indiana to Kerry. I doubt it will end up being a 20 point race in the end.

However, this poll confirms to me that there is almost no chance that Indiana will flip, and if it does we

will know long before then that the election is over. Safe for Bush.


Oklahoma
Electoral Votes: 7
2000 Result
Bush 60%
Gore 38%

Background: Republicans have won every election here since LBJ.

Polling Data:

Date Polling Company Link Type MOE Republican Democrat Margin
3/1/04 Wilson Research NA 300 RV 5.7% Bush 50% Kerry 40% Bush +10
4/1/04 Insider Advantage Link 400 Residents 5% Bush 47% Kerry 35% Bush +12
5/20/04 Wilson Research Link 500 RV 4% Bush 53% Kerry 34% Bush +19

Punditry: Just when it looked like there was a slight chance that Oklahoma could get interesting with regards to the Presidential race, it looks to have opened back up. Oklahomans feel, 48% to 33%, that things are generally on the right track in their state. Strong Advantage for Bush.


South Dakota
Electoral Votes: 3
2000 Result
Bush 60%
Gore 38%

Background: Another state that only went for the Democrats with Johnson since FDR's second campaign. It has occasionally been close.

Polling Data:

Date Polling Company Link Type MOE Republican Democrat Margin
2/5/03 Mason-Dixon NA LV 3.5% Bush 50% Unnamed Democrat 39% Bush +11
5/12/04 Mason-Dixon Link 625 LV 4% Bush 51% Kerry 35% Bush +16
5/21/04 Zogby Link 500 LV 4.5% Bush 50.1% Kerry 34.8% Bush +15.3 (no Nader)

Punditry: South Dakota is going to be a very interesting state to watch in November, but not because of the Presidential race. Bush is going to handily carry the state. Strong Advantage for Bush. However, there will be a very tight Senate race where Minority Leader Daschle is at risk (he leads John Thune by only two points in the same Mason-Dixon poll) and a tight House race (where Herseth has a slim lead over Diedrich). (No update to comment with the addition of the Zogby poll).


California
Electoral Votes: 55
2000 Result
Gore 53%
Bush 42%

Background: On a three election streak for the Democrats, California has a reputation as a liberal bastion. While Gore did handle Bush easily in 2000, the fact is that the reputation may not fit the data on the Presidential level. Only three candidates have broken 53% in California since the 1964 landslide. Al Gore last time, homestate icon Ronald Reagan in his re-election campaign but not his first election, and Richard Nixon in his re-election campaign but not his first successful Presidential campaign.

Polling Data:

Date Polling Company Link Type MOE Republican Democrat Margin
8/16/03 Field NA RV 4% Bush 42% Unnamed Democrat 47% Dem +5
8/16/03 Public Policy Institute NA LV 3% Bush 40% Unnamed Democrat 45% Dem +5
1/3/04 Public Policy Institute Link LV 3% Bush 45% Unnamed Democrat 45% Tied
1/13/04 Field NA RV 3.4% Bush 46% Unnamed Democrat 47% Dem +1
1/18/04 Rasmussen NA LV 4% Bush 41% Unnamed Democrat 46% Dem +5
2/13/04 Knowledge Networks Link RV 4.1% Bush 38% Kerry 42% Dem +4
2/16/04 Public Policy Institute Link 1,103 LV 3% Bush 37% Kerry 54% Dem +17
2/22/04 LA Times Link 1,521 RV 3% Bush 40% Kerry 53% Dem +13
2/27/04 Knowledge Networks Link 505 RV 3.8% Bush 38% Kerry 43% Kerry +5
3/11/04 Rasmussen Link 455 LV 5% Bush 44% Kerry 53% Kerry +9
4/17/04 Rasmussen Link 502 LV 5% Bush 40% Kerry 51% Kerry +11
4/21/04 L.A. Times Link 1,265 LV, Nader an option 3% Bush 39% Kerry 49% Kerry +10
4/21/04 L.A. Times Link 1,265 LV, Nader not an option 3% Bush 41% Kerry 53% Kerry +12
5/6/04 SurveyUSA Link 635 LV 4% Bush 45% Kerry 46% Kerry +1
5/24/04 Field Link 647 RV, Nader not an option 4% Bush 40% Kerry 55% Kerry +15
5/24/04 Field Link 647 RV, Nader an option 4% Bush 39% Kerry 51% Kerry +12

Punditry: One of these polls is not like the others. Although SurveyUSA has a good record for accuracy, I suspect that most of the polls coming out in California over the next several weeks will be closer to this one than the previous one. Field Polls normally run a few points favorable for the Democrats, so if I had to guess I'd put this race right on the cusp between Lean and Strong. Since the last two polls are contradictory, I will go with Leaning Towards Kerry.


Effective National Popular Results: Bush 45.4%, Kerry 44.2%

Kerry E F Bush
Safe Strong Lean Slight Tossup Slight Lean Strong Safe
DC (3) DE (3) MD (10)
K48-B43
3/24/04
IA (7)
K47-B46
4/21/04
NM (5)
B46-K45
4/1/04
AR (6)
B45-K45
5/2/04
VA (13)
B48-WC33
12/3/03
SC (8)
B52-UD36
7/28/03
AK (3)
HI (4) ME (4)
K51-B38
3/4/04
MN (10)
K50-B38
4/2/04
NH (4)
K49-B45
4/26/04
OR (7)
K50-B47
B44-K39
5/10/04
AZ (10)
B46-K42
5/4/04
GA (15)
B47-UD43
2/4/04
MS (6)
B49-UD29
12/22/03
ND (3)
RI (4)
K53-B31
2/7/04
NY (31)
K51-B32
4/22/04
WA (11)
K46-B41
4/5/04
WI (10)
K50-B42
B50-K38
4/28/04
MI (17)
B44-K40
5/13/04
- NV (5)
B49-K38
3/17/04
KS (6)
B57-K39
3/4/04
NE (5)
MA (12)
K54-B32
4/5/04
CT (7)
K51-B33
4/27/04
CA (55)
K46-B45
5/6/04
NJ (15)
K46-B43
5/16/04
FL (27)
B47-K46
5/19/04
- TN (11)
B52-K41
3/22/04
LA (9)
B52-K38
3/28/04
WY (3)
- VT (3)
K51-B36
5/1/04
OH (20)
K49-B42
5/13/04
PA (21)
K48-B43
5/12/04
- - MO (11)
B49-K42
3/23/04
KY (8)
B52-K40
5/11/04
MT (3)
B52-UD27
5/16/03
- - IL (21)
K48-B43
5/13/04
- - - CO (9)
B49-K44
4/14/04
OK (7)
B53-K34
5/20/04
ID (4)
B55-K23
3/17/04
- - - - - - WV (5)
B49-K45
4/29/04
SD (3)
B50-K35
5/21/04
UT (5)
B67-K22
5/10/04
- - - - - - NC (15)
B47-K41
5/14/04
- AL (9)
B55-K33
5/13/04
- - - - - - - - TX (34)
B58-K29
5/15/04
- - - - - - - - IN (11)
B54-K33
5/19/04
Totals
Kerry States Battleground States Bush States

23 48 127 57 56 16 84 47 80

198 129 211

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Last week's quiz:
Which President was accused by his challenger of leaving town to dedicate a dam every time he was facing difficult or embarrassing questions?
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This week's quiz: "How do you know the mafia was there?" What is the answer to this question, what leads up to it, and how did it fit in with an exceptional Presidential race?


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California; US: Florida; US: Indiana; US: New Jersey; US: Oklahoma; US: Pennsylvania; US: South Dakota
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1 posted on 05/26/2004 4:14:59 PM PDT by Dales
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To: Dales

Since I posted the answer to your quiz on your blog, I'll let someone else take a stab at the Weekly Quiz here.


2 posted on 05/26/2004 4:17:07 PM PDT by So Cal Rocket (Fabrizio Quattrocchi: "Adesso vi faccio vedere come muore un italiano")
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To: Dales

And are the pollsters ever going to realize that the state (commonwealth?) of Virginia is dying for a new poll?


3 posted on 05/26/2004 4:18:12 PM PDT by So Cal Rocket (Fabrizio Quattrocchi: "Adesso vi faccio vedere come muore un italiano")
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To: Neets; Coop; The G Man; nevergiveup; scan58; AuH2ORepublican; BoomerBob; Galatians513; onyx; ...

Ping


4 posted on 05/26/2004 4:19:52 PM PDT by Dales
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To: Dales
How do you know the mafia was there?

LoL!

5 posted on 05/26/2004 4:24:16 PM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: Dales
Why isn't Georgia running more strongly for Bush? It appears to be based on an old Democrat partisan poll back in the heyday of the Edwards candidacy. I think Bush would poll considerably better in Georgia in a nonpartisan, non-Zogby poll with Kerry as the Democrat candidate taken today.
6 posted on 05/26/2004 4:28:30 PM PDT by dufekin (John F. Kerry. Irrational, improvident, backward, seditious.)
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To: Dales

How can you tell a Pole is at a cockfight? He'[s the one with the duck. How do you know an Italian's there. He bets on the duck. How do you know the Mafia's there? The duck wins".

Joke told by Reagan in the leadup to the 1980 NH primary. Okay. I cheated. I saw the answer in the comments section of your blog.:)


7 posted on 05/26/2004 4:29:10 PM PDT by WinOne4TheGipper (I make no guarantee that the above post was written by a sane person.)
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To: Dales
Why is Kerry even a factor in these discussions? Most of the analysts I've heard from recently contend that as goes the news from Iraq, so go Pres. Bush's re-election prospects. If this is true, Kerry is irrelevant. He will not win on his own. He can only win if the bottom falls out of our efforts in Iraq.

It seems like over the past week or so, American casualties in Iraq have been much reduced from previous weeks. The bad news from Fallujah and Najaf, and the Abu Ghraib prison (or whatever it's called) have been overblown in the sense that the news from Iraq has been tunnel vision, focused on the bad news, ignoring the good news in Iraq. Hence, Bush is weighted down, not by John Kerry, but by a concerted effort by the news media to spin the news from Iraq in the worst possible light.

Again, as odd as it may seem to contend, Kerry is almost a non-entity in this race. Right now, it's a race between Bush's goals in Iraq, and the public's perception of how well those goals are being met. Much can change in a week's time. And at some point, the voters may simply get weary of the news media lying about what is going on in Iraq.

8 posted on 05/26/2004 4:38:55 PM PDT by My2Cents ("Well...there you go again.")
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To: Dales

It's amazing to me that Michigan and Oregon are a tossup right now...man it's be nice if Ahnold pulls something out of the hat in Ca.


9 posted on 05/26/2004 4:40:23 PM PDT by God luvs America (Support Our Troops....Don't vote for Kerry!)
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To: Dales
Florida and Ohio.

If W finds a way to pull off those two, everything else will fall into place. If he can't, then I don't like his chances.

10 posted on 05/26/2004 4:48:43 PM PDT by comebacknewt
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To: Dales
Sleep tight everyone.

Before Nov 4th, WMD's will be located in big quantities, Bin Laden's will be a "certified" dead man, and the economy will be getting stronger and stronger.

11 posted on 05/26/2004 4:54:40 PM PDT by AmericaUnited (It's time someone says the emperor has no clothes.)
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To: All

new jersey spread reflects the fraud. newark, atlantic city, camden, perth amboy, just to make it look like blowout. when they start reporting those first, not last, there will be a more accurate tally.


12 posted on 05/26/2004 5:01:33 PM PDT by olde north church (Do you want a president that eats bar-be-cue or a president that eats watercress?)
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To: AmericaUnited
I hope you are right about WMD and UBL (I think we have a better chance at UBL then the WMD). I don't think Iraq had large quantities "already made up" - no need for Saddam to have had them this way - he had all the production capabilites (and that is all he was concerned with having).

From the look of this analysis - things have broke slighly Kerry's way - I mean look at PA,FL and CA - all have broke for Kerry (trending that is).

We need to keep working - Plenty of time to turn it around but this is going to a tight race I'm starting to feel.

13 posted on 05/26/2004 5:05:55 PM PDT by POA2
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To: Dales

Hey Dales - how about making the Bush states Red and the rat states Blue. Before 2000 it was all interchangeable but nowadays the terms "red states" and "blue states" are as much a part of the political lexicon as "bible belt" or "soccer mom." Everytime I see one of your maps it takes me a second to figure out why it seems odd, kind of like reading signs in the rear-view mirror.


14 posted on 05/26/2004 5:07:42 PM PDT by azcap
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To: Dales
While the media has been concentrating on national polls, the state-by-state polls are what are important. Thank you for the latest update.

Indiana is pro-Bush, and I think this will help us elect Mitch Daniels as governor this year.

15 posted on 05/26/2004 5:13:52 PM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: Miss Marple

MSNBC/NBC have Kerry winning with 313.


16 posted on 05/26/2004 5:17:08 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Dales

.

NEVER FORGET


The morning after HILLARY's election as a U.S. Senator from New York in November 2000...

HILLARY publically announced that the 1st Bill she was going to introduce after sworn in...

was a Bill to ABOLISH our Republic-Saving ELECTORAL COLLEGE.

The Enemy is now Within...
and always has been.


NEVER FORGET


17 posted on 05/26/2004 5:17:17 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE (Vet-Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.LZXRAY.com)
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To: God luvs America

Since I live in the People's Republik of Oregon, I can't believe it is a toss up either! WOW! No wonder Teresa's husband has been here twice in a week.


18 posted on 05/26/2004 5:18:02 PM PDT by bevlar ("Ted Kennedy's Oldsmobile has killed more people than my gun")
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To: azcap; Dales

He's been there, done that.

When I teasingly recommended he reverse the columns by putting Bush on the right and Kerry on the Left, he did that, too.

Besides, it's the PURPLE states that matter anyway.


19 posted on 05/26/2004 5:21:02 PM PDT by jack gillis
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To: Dales

I reject the validity of the Zogby Battleground instrument until it has been shown valid by replication and predictive confirmation.

I do so because any poll that relies to any degree on self-selection has to have a built-in bias. It's the reverse-only-worse of the participation-rate problem.


20 posted on 05/26/2004 5:27:52 PM PDT by jack gillis
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