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The Heckler Heckled
TAS ^ | 5/26/2004 | George Neumayr

Posted on 05/26/2004 3:09:57 PM PDT by swilhelm73

When E.L. Doctorow urged graduates at Hofstra University to question authority, he didn't expect them to question his. The fiction writer accused George Bush of launching a fictitious war in Iraq and was heckled into silence. In a moment the liberal elite must regard as an alarming illustration of the Red-Blue divisions of America now even bleeding into academia, students and parents booed Doctorow while the liberal faculty stood to cheer at the end of his speech. Booing a speaker into silence wasn't the vigorous free speech and activism Doctorow had in mind when he extolled agitation earlier in his speech. How dare the mob turn on its visionaries. Notice the suggestion (in the Newsday story about Doctorow's speech) that peasants were responsible for the heckling -- the booing "came mainly from the crowd in the stands." This is reminiscent of self-appointed populist Michael Moore blaming boos at the Oscars two years ago on lowly stage hands and hooligans in the cheap seats.

The distinction between civility and incivility in the liberal mind is very fine indeed: If a liberal commencement speaker calls the president of the United States a liar, that's civility; if the crowd boos the speaker calling their president a liar, that's incivility.

Doctorow once helped Americans navigate these careful distinctions as a member of a "civility" commission in the 1990s after the troubling Republican takeover of Congress. Called the "Penn Commission on Society, Culture and Community," it gathered at the University of Pennsylvania to address the "explosion of incivility" in American life. Such experts on civility as Paul Begala were asked to mull "the rising tide of rudeness and -- if possible -- how to stem it," reported the press.

Doctorow had tried to keep the rudeness of the Reagan years at bay. But to no avail. The mob needed further conditioning. Reactionary parents, for example, shook their heads in dismay at a 1989 Brandeis University commencement address Doctorow delivered in which he accused Ronald Reagan of lying and nurturing a "gangsterdom of the spirit."

"Mr. Reagan's advocacy of self-reliance caused him to scorn or forget other truths of community," Doctorow said in that address. "And so he was moved at various times in his Administration to take away school lunches from needy children and tuition loans from students, and to deny legal services to poor people and psychological counseling to Vietnam veterans, and Social Security payments to handicapped people...The philosophical conservative is someone willing to pay the price of other people's suffering for his principles. And so we now have hundreds of thousands, perhaps millions, of our citizens lying around in the streets of our cities, sleeping in doorways, begging with styrofoam cups. We didn't have a class of permanent beggars in this country -- in the United States of America -- fifteen or twenty years ago. We didn't have kids selling crack in their grade schools, or businessmen magnifying their fortunes into megafortunes by stock manipulation and thievery -- I don't remember such epidemics of major corporate fraud. A decade ago you did not have college students scrawling racial epithets or anti-Semitic graffiti on the room doors of their fellow students. You did not have cops strangling teen-age boys to death or shooting elderly deranged women in their own homes. You did not have scientists falsifying the results of experiments, or preachers committing the sins against which they so thunderously preached. A generation or so back, you didn't have every class of society, and every occupation, widely, ruggedly practicing its own characteristic form of crime."

It must be maddening to Doctorow that conservatives see such talk as uncivil, deserving of jeers. Clearly his old civility commission needs to reconvene to teach Americans that conservative thought itself is "uncivil" and liberalism, even when its proponents are accusing conservatives of lying and killing, is civility's most reliable friend. Don't students know that civility is conformity to liberalism? Liberals aren't supposed to be heckled at commencement ceremonies; they are supposed to do the heckling.(Just like they did to Jeane Kirkpatrick at U.C. Berkeley in 1983 when liberals routinely accused her of lying about the evil of communism, as they now accuse Bush of lying about Saddam Hussein's ties to terrorists.)

Conservatives are supposed to be heckled, not contributors to the Nation magazine like Doctorow. Or newspaper publishers. Recall Janis Heaphy, publisher of the Sacramento Bee, who had her remarks about civil liberties drowned out at the 2001 commencement at Cal State Sacramento. John Ashcroft and George Bush were threatening their rights, she told them. "Specifically, to what degree are we willing to compromise our civil liberties in the name of security?" The graduates then exercised their civil liberties so loudly Heaphy had to sit down.

These are stories of campus radicalism that won't make it into Doctorow's radical novels, and examples of rudeness Doctorow likes to reserve to himself.


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KEYWORDS: doctorow; hofstrauniversity
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1 posted on 05/26/2004 3:09:57 PM PDT by swilhelm73
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To: swilhelm73

"Do you know who I am?!"


2 posted on 05/26/2004 3:15:54 PM PDT by Klaus D. Deore
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To: swilhelm73; Constitution Day; presidio9
When E.L. Doctorow urged graduates at Hofstra University to question authority, he didn't expect them to question his.

Line of the week!

3 posted on 05/26/2004 3:15:59 PM PDT by martin_fierro (</pith>)
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To: martin_fierro

'If a liberal commencement speaker calls the president of the United States a liar, that's civility; if the crowd boos the speaker calling their president a liar, that's incivility'

another sweet line!


4 posted on 05/26/2004 3:18:26 PM PDT by bitt
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To: Klaus D. Deore
"Do you know who I am?!"

(Keys ear-splitting PA system) "MANAGER ASSIST REGISTER THREE, WE HAVE A CUSTOMER WHO DOESN'T KNOW WHO HE IS..."

5 posted on 05/26/2004 3:20:19 PM PDT by Poohbah (Four thousand throats may be cut in a single night by a running man -- Kahless the Unforgettable)
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To: swilhelm73

I love the sound of liberal whining, when their own tactics are used against them. I just hope that we don't have to hear some conservative tsk-tsking the crowd. It is long past time that those socialists got what they deserved.


6 posted on 05/26/2004 3:21:23 PM PDT by Paul Atreides
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To: swilhelm73

Thanks for posting this.


7 posted on 05/26/2004 3:25:37 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: swilhelm73

Personally I don't believe in heckling even a stupid, leftist assw... like Doctorow. Silence would be a better weapon. Shouting down even obnoxious creeps like him will only lead to retaliation. Action should be taken to get conservative speakers on campus and scolding college admin for letting such useless jerks speak.


8 posted on 05/26/2004 4:40:53 PM PDT by driftless ( For life-long happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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To: Klaus D. Deore

And don't let it hit you on the way out...


9 posted on 05/26/2004 4:48:19 PM PDT by trebb (Ain't God good . . .)
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To: driftless

I'll be honest with you. I'm sick and tired of conservatives playing by the rules while the Left breaks them with impunity.

The Left isn't going to play nice no matter how much we do, and our principles may well lead to us losing the culture war.

Doctorow violated the unwritten code about using such a speech as a narrow, partisan weapon. As such, there was little reason for those in attendance to respect the similar unwritten code of politely listening. Booing him was the right thing to do. Perhaps the next time a Leftist considers givign such a speech he will thing twice...


10 posted on 05/26/2004 4:49:16 PM PDT by swilhelm73
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To: Klaus D. Deore
Let me guess.

You're a troll?

11 posted on 05/26/2004 4:50:16 PM PDT by O.C. - Old Cracker (When the cracker gets old, you wind up with Old Cracker. - O.C.)
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To: O.C. - Old Cracker
What are you blabbing about?

I'm simply pointing out that this dude is as red as they come.

Take a chill, Cracker

12 posted on 05/26/2004 4:57:44 PM PDT by Klaus D. Deore
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To: trebb
"Do you know who I am?"

Is the Leftist Elitist lament when us regular folks question their 'holier than thou' crappola.

13 posted on 05/26/2004 5:00:38 PM PDT by Klaus D. Deore
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To: Klaus D. Deore

Whenever you show up in a thread it's always accompanied by the stench of troll flesh, that's all.


14 posted on 05/26/2004 5:02:53 PM PDT by O.C. - Old Cracker (When the cracker gets old, you wind up with Old Cracker. - O.C.)
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To: O.C. - Old Cracker
Whenever you show up in a thread it's always accompanied by the stench of troll flesh, that's all.

I think perhaps you just need to change your underwear... Cracky.

15 posted on 05/26/2004 5:07:46 PM PDT by Klaus D. Deore
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To: swilhelm73

The Nation magazine....

Where are good Commies go to work.


16 posted on 05/26/2004 5:08:09 PM PDT by BushisTheMan
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To: Paul Atreides
Liberals aren't supposed to be heckled at commencement ceremonies; they are supposed to do the heckling.

OK. We're sorry. We left the rulebook at home.

No! Wait!! Our dog ate the rulebook!!

17 posted on 05/26/2004 5:11:55 PM PDT by Focault's Pendulum (Simple physics: Heat sand hot enough...it becomes Glass!)
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To: driftless
Personally I don't believe in heckling even a stupid, leftist assw... like Doctorow. Silence would be a better weapon. Shouting down even obnoxious creeps like him will only lead to retaliation. Action should be taken to get conservative speakers on campus and scolding college admin for letting such useless jerks speak.

Baloney. He wasn't invited to give a political speech, one that students had the freedom to ignore by not attending. He was invited to a commencement and decided to make a political speech. As Peggy Noonan wrote yesterday: "Go, Hofstra!"

18 posted on 05/26/2004 5:13:10 PM PDT by aculeus
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To: swilhelm73

"...And so we now have hundreds of thousands, perhaps millions, of our citizens lying around in the streets of our cities, sleeping in doorways, begging with styrofoam cups. We didn't have a class of permanent beggars in this country -- in the United States of America -- fifteen or twenty years ago. We didn't have kids selling crack in their grade schools, or businessmen magnifying their fortunes into megafortunes by stock manipulation and thievery -- I don't remember such epidemics of major corporate fraud. A decade ago you did not have college students scrawling racial epithets or anti-Semitic graffiti on the room doors of their fellow students. You did not have cops strangling teen-age boys to death or shooting elderly deranged women in their own homes. You did not have scientists falsifying the results of experiments, or preachers committing the sins against which they so thunderously preached. A generation or so back, you didn't have every class of society, and every occupation, widely, ruggedly practicing its own characteristic form of crime."
 

 

Of course, all of these horrors magically disappeared between 1992-2000.

 

 

19 posted on 05/26/2004 5:13:44 PM PDT by Fintan (Seriously...does my hair look all right?)
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To: swilhelm73

Trying to read his speech above is kind of like trying to read "Ragtime", his novel. The brain disolves in rage.


20 posted on 05/26/2004 5:16:40 PM PDT by JimSEA ( "More Bush, Less Taxes.")
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