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Campers forced to remove Confederate Flags at Indiana campground
Associated Press ^ | 25 May 2004

Posted on 05/26/2004 6:36:39 AM PDT by Rebeleye

MUNCIE, Ind. — Confederate battle flags have been banned from a city-run campground, prompting a fight between city officials and some campers.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Indiana
KEYWORDS: campers; camping; confederate; dixie; indiana; muncie
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MUNCIE, Ind. — Confederate battle flags have been banned from a city-run campground, prompting a fight between city officials and some campers.

The city created the new rules at the Prairie Creek Reservoir campground in response to complaints that it has become a taxpayer-subsidized, semi-permanent trailer park nicknamed "Springerville" after the Jerry Springer television show.

Mayor Dan Canan said that he did not care about complaints that the ban violated the rights of campers.

"Their right is to go to another campground," Canan told The Star Press for a story yesterday. "We have a long waiting list for those campsites."

City Council member Mary Jo Barton said she had talked to one unhappy camper who was so angry about being forced to remove his flag that he planned to consult the American Civil Liberties Union and an attorney.

Barton said she could understand objections to the flag if it were flown at the reservoir's office. She said she did not know why it would be objectionable at individual campsites.

"To me, the city is stepping on their rights as far as freedom of speech," she said. "Granted, it's city park ground, but the campers pay money to rent that ground."

Others say the ban at the campground about 10 miles southeast of the city is justified.

"It's a recreational campground on city property," park board President John Parker said. "Once things like that (Confederate flags) start, where does it stop? Then it's Miller Lite banners. I guess we're trying to maintain a clean, family-oriented atmosphere."

Park Superintendent Ron Bonham said he had received complaints about Confederate flags last year.

"(Campers flying the flag) say they are not prejudiced, which is fine, but I don't think a public park is a place for that," Bonham said.

Muncie resident and weekend camper Richard Bellomy said he believed the ban violated his right to freedom of expression.

"This has nothing to do with prejudice," Bellomy said. "I'm just proud to be from the South. These flags are not illegal."

In a story today, The Star Press quoted Fran Quigley, executive director of the Indiana Civil Liberties Union as saying: "The law is that in a public forum such as a park speech is protected, even speech many of us would find offensive.

"The whole principle is, we let all kinds of messages be transmitted, and we don't censor them and we certainly don't favor one over another. Flags are certainly a form of speech that's protected by the First Amendment."

1 posted on 05/26/2004 6:36:40 AM PDT by Rebeleye
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To: stainlessbanner

heritage not hate ping


2 posted on 05/26/2004 6:40:08 AM PDT by cyborg (tit for tat butter for fat hillary is ugly that's a fact)
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To: Rebeleye
That means WAR!


3 posted on 05/26/2004 6:40:29 AM PDT by steplock (http://www.gohotsprings.com)
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To: cyborg

It won't be long until it will be illegal to display the American Flag.


4 posted on 05/26/2004 6:41:55 AM PDT by Piquaboy
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To: steplock; stand watie

dang where did you get that! I've been looking for a picture like that to sendnto my favorite confederate.


5 posted on 05/26/2004 6:42:48 AM PDT by cyborg (tit for tat butter for fat hillary is ugly that's a fact)
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To: Piquaboy

yep


6 posted on 05/26/2004 6:43:42 AM PDT by cyborg (tit for tat butter for fat hillary is ugly that's a fact)
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To: cyborg

"Once things like that (Confederate flags) start, where does it stop? Then it's Miller Lite banners. I guess we're trying to maintain a clean, family-oriented atmosphere."
 

I got twenty bucks that says you wouldn't hear a peep if gay campers flew their cutesy-poo little rainbow flag.

7 posted on 05/26/2004 6:44:02 AM PDT by Fintan (Seriously...does my hair look all right?)
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To: Rebeleye
Confederate battle flags have been banned from a city-run campground

How tolerant.

Phew! I feel safer already.

8 posted on 05/26/2004 6:45:36 AM PDT by Puppage
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To: cyborg

I found that one a few years ago and I cleaned it up and blew it up a bit.

I wish I knew how to do graphics better 'cause I would love to have a good full screen size.

(you just can't tell it to fill the screen - it loses resolution)


9 posted on 05/26/2004 6:46:11 AM PDT by steplock (http://www.gohotsprings.com)
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To: Rebeleye

Obviously, then, campers should be banned from wearing FUBU clothes....


10 posted on 05/26/2004 6:46:30 AM PDT by NativeNewYorker (Don't blame me. I voted for Sharpton.)
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To: cyborg
I am just waiting for someone to tell Target stores to change their name because it makes them scared.

It's come'n

11 posted on 05/26/2004 6:46:35 AM PDT by Puppage
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>"It's a recreational campground on city property," park board President John Parker said. "Once things like that (Confederate flags) start, where does it stop? Then it's Miller Lite banners. I guess we're trying to maintain a clean, family-oriented atmosphere." <

Ohmigosh, if we don't get a handle on this catastrophe, next thing you know campers will have NASCAR signs, and big number "3's" all over the place!


12 posted on 05/26/2004 6:46:56 AM PDT by Darnright
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To: cyborg

Government running amok yet again.


13 posted on 05/26/2004 6:47:37 AM PDT by Sunshine Sister
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To: cyborg
Is my Malcom X flag OK? How about the gay rainbow flag? Cuba's flag? Or how about a flag with Che Guevara (he is so hip now). Islamic flags?

No - no of these truly offensive flags will be banned...
14 posted on 05/26/2004 6:48:00 AM PDT by 2banana (They want to die for Islam and we want to kill them)
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To: cyborg

Just in case - and for the 'newbies'

to save a picture (using windows) right-click on the picture, select "Save Picture as ..." then select where you want to save your picture "My Pictures" is a logical place :>)


15 posted on 05/26/2004 6:48:12 AM PDT by steplock (http://www.gohotsprings.com)
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To: Rebeleye
The Star Press quoted Fran Quigley, executive director of the Indiana Civil Liberties Union as saying: "The law is that in a public forum such as a park speech is protected, even speech many of us would find offensive.

Well . . . even a broken clock is right twice a day.

16 posted on 05/26/2004 6:49:01 AM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: Rebeleye

Those with the Confederacy -- all civilized people -- have every right to be proud of their heritage.


17 posted on 05/26/2004 6:50:11 AM PDT by Stagerite
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To: Puppage

No "Target" is just how the lefties want everyone to see themselves.


18 posted on 05/26/2004 6:50:27 AM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: steplock

I surrender!


19 posted on 05/26/2004 6:50:31 AM PDT by WSGilcrest (The Three Boogitys)
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To: steplock
No, if only my three Union Army ancestors had seen that graphic - they might'a changed sides!
20 posted on 05/26/2004 6:51:28 AM PDT by BenLurkin
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