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Crazy Horse killed Custer and then spanked Gen. Cook. Matter of fact he would have wuped Cook if some friendly indians hadn't disrupted his plans.

Historical Note: Custer was wiped out AFTER GENERAL CROOK's column was turned back. These were two widely separated battles though part of the same campaign.

LS made some good strategic points. You can't mindlessly rush into a big city killing all before you unless you are prepared to take on a much larger rebellion in the future. We do not & will not have sufficient forces to hold Iraq unless we let the Iraqis do it, or we are prepared to terrorize the populace into submission. Last I checked, Ghengis Khan is not in command of I MEF, so turning things over to the Iraqis -- however imperfect -- is the only choice.

I suggest that you pickup a copy of the US Marine Corps "Small Wars Manual". Your screename suggests that you serve/served in the Marines. The Marines have a long history of fighting very limited conflicts (Haiti, Nicaragua, Dominican Republic, China) -- meaning at some point you cut a deal. It works if done carefully and given sufficient time.

"Haiti, Nicaragua, Dominican Republic, China"

Notice that those are all slum nations and corrupt banana republics, with the exception of communist China with their ICBMs pointed at us. We rebuilt none of them, like we are planning with Iraq. None became reformist examples to a hostile region that we want for Iraq. AFAIK, battles there did little if anything to uplift or even pacify the region.

If we’re not really engaged in a war to defeat terrorism, by changing the tyrannical environment from which it grows and from which it’s supported, then I think that Fallujah is a great example. It allows an unrecognized balkanization of Iraq to fester, where kids grow up mesmerized by resistance stories against the infidels, and go on to build dirty bombs and harbor wanted terrorist without fear of anyone more pro-American than the Fallujah Brigade. Iraq looks pretty good for an election year, and maybe it won’t be a disaster for the next generation of Americans, or maybe it will.

Historical Note: Custer was wiped out AFTER GENERAL CROOK's column was turned back.....

True. I meant General Nelson Miles was attacked by Crazy Horse after defeating Custer.

Now although it may be true that, Ghengis Khan is not in command of I MEF, and that turning things over to the Iraqis -- however imperfect is the only choice, the question is to what Iraqi faction will we turn it over to?

In this case we have turned Fallujah over to the Iraqi faction that is Pro-terrorist and Anti-American. The Terrs have bought time, won the propaganda war and secured a sanctuary for a base of operation. In the future we will see
the enemy attempt to reproduce this situation in Najaf.

All the while, the terrs are looking for more Sarin shells, and other forms of WMD devices and tactics to attack our troops with.

I like the way we are killing 40 and 50 of these Islamic terrs everyday in and around Najaf. I think THAT is the reason other clerics are starting to speak out against Sadr.

Of course, if we had killed Sadr and 2000 of his goons a month ago, we would be better off now, and the Presidents numbers would be better. I would not worry about all this talk of Shiites rising up over the destruction of their " Holy Ammo Dump Site". We just have to make it clear that the responsibility of whether the "Site" is leveled or not lies with Sadr and not US. He leaves or we level. His call.

The World need to see that the United States does not grant Sanctuary to Terrorist. No where, NO Time for NO REASON.