[elfman2]

"I find it interesting that the Marines, who everyone wanted to "go in" and "clean up," were the ones SUGGESTING these approaches and HAD TO GET PERMISSION FROM WASHINGTON to talk to these people. "

You refused to answer my question attempting to clarify this, and now your repeat your mischaracterization of your opposition. That’s dishonest.

You refuse to acknowledge that there is a difference between Marines finding an innovative solution to exit from a flawed “cease fire” force on them and this being the Marines’ choice. They were not given the option of defeating the city with the training and with the weapons they brought.

I think this is a dishonorable debate on your part.

[LS]

You can think what you want. It's clear from the article that the suggestions went from Fallujah to Washington, not vice versa.

[elfman2]

"But elf or other "critics" who "know" what is happening behind the scenes won't be convinced by what the actual participants have to say"

Still avoiding discussing anything that I did say LS, just making more things up to argue with... ;^)