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Tom Clancy new book criticises Iraq war
The Sydney Morning Herald ^ | 5/26/04

Posted on 05/25/2004 12:38:07 PM PDT by Rams82

Tom Clancy new book criticises Iraq war May 26, 2004

A celebrated author with many admirers in the military has criticised the US-led invasion of Iraq, citing it as proof that "good men make mistakes".

Tom Clancy also said he almost "came to blows" with a leading war supporter, former Pentagon adviser Richard Perle.

The hawkish master of such million-selling thrillers as Patriot Games and The Hunt for Red October has added his own name to critics of the Iraq war, and not only through his own comments.

His latest book, Battle Ready, is a collaboration with another war critic, retired Marine General Anthony Zinni.

Battle Ready looks at Zinni's long military career, dating back to the Vietnam War, and includes harsh remarks by Zinni about the current conflict.

In an interview today with The Associated Press, Clancy and Zinni sat side by side in a hotel conference room in Manhattan, mutual admirers who said they agreed on most issues, despite "one or two" spirited "discussions" during the book's planning.

Zinni has openly attacked the war, but Clancy reluctantly acknowledged his own concerns. He declined repeatedly to comment on the war, before saying that it lacked a "casus belli," or suitable provocation.

"It troubles me greatly to say that, because I've met President (George W) Bush," Clancy said. "He's a good guy. ... I think he's well-grounded, both morally and philosophically. But good men make mistakes."

Battle Ready was published in the United States today with a first printing of 438,700. It is the fourth in Clancy's "Commanders" series, in which military leaders reflect on their careers and discuss military strategy.

"In the movies, military leaders are all drunken Nazis," said Clancy, who has worked on books about retired General Chuck Horner, who led US Central Command Air Forces during the Gulf War, and retired General Carl Stiner, whose missions included the capture of Panama leader Manuel Noriega.

"In fact, these are very bright people who regard the soldiers and Marines under them as their own kids. I thought the people needed to know about that. These are good guys, and smart guys."

Zinni served as commander in chief of the US Central Command from 1997 to 2000 and as a special Middle East envoy from 2001-2003.

But even as an envoy, Zinni spoke out against invading Iraq, regarding it as disastrous for Middle East peace and a distraction from the war against terrorism. Today, he said getting rid of Saddam Hussein was not worth the price.

"He's a bad guy. He's a terrible guy and he should go," Zinni said.

"But I don't think it's worth 800 troops dead, 4500 wounded - some of them terribly - $US200 billion ($286.8 billion) of our treasury and counting, and our reputation and our image in the world, particularly in that region, shattered."

In discussing the Iraq war, both Clancy and Zinni singled out the Department of Defence for criticism.

Clancy recalled a prewar encounter in Washington during which he "almost came to blows" with Richard Perle, a Pentagon adviser at the time and a longtime advocate of the invasion.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News
KEYWORDS: battleready; bookreview; clancy; notsavingpresryan; zinni
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To: Rams82

Egads...Lou Holtz and Tom Clancy going to the Dark Side.


41 posted on 05/25/2004 4:53:22 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion: The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience. DCN)
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To: LS

His new wife, who is black, maybe has some Muslim family members.


42 posted on 05/25/2004 4:54:54 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion: The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience. DCN)
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To: Rams82

Well, I guess I know where my firewood starter is coming from next winter...I have a library of the stuff.


43 posted on 05/25/2004 5:06:09 PM PDT by TADSLOS (Right Wing Infidel since 1954)
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To: Cicero

What ethnicity is Zinni? Eye-Talian?


44 posted on 05/25/2004 7:27:00 PM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: Destro

I believe Zinni is Jewish but I'm not sure.


45 posted on 05/26/2004 2:21:39 PM PDT by Rams82
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To: jim35
This is every bit as smart as a country music group criticizing GW. Who does this bozo think his audience is,

Not stupid, but brave. And an act of integrity.

46 posted on 06/03/2004 10:42:36 PM PDT by Commie Basher
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To: Fletcher J; LS
I just recently picked up Clancy's "Red Rabbit". The story premise is good and entertaining, but the writing is hardly the best I have seen.

First of all, its written about events 20 years ago. There seem to be anachronisms, items and events which are out of order in the timeline. Clancy readers are pretty smart so I know that they catch things like that.

I know its hard to recall events 2 decades ago, but Clacny also writes as if every single person knew that the Soviet Union would crumble by 1991. It was simply not the case.

I also have a problem with the character of Jack Ryan. I nearly threw the book down when Clancy wrote that Ryan was so "smart" that he invested in a litte coffee company named Starbucks back in the early 80's. Thats cheap writing.

Its clear that although Clancy understood the Cold War, but I don't think he gets terrorism as well.

47 posted on 08/01/2004 10:49:15 AM PDT by KC_Conspirator (This space outsourced to India)
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To: KC_Conspirator

Many think Clancy does not write his own stuff any more, and given the quality (or lack thereof) of Red Rabbit, I agree.


48 posted on 08/01/2004 12:37:48 PM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of news.)
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To: Rams82
Well I expected more from Tom Clancy. Here is a guy who I felt could see the big picture but I guess I was wrong.
General Zinni might be a okay guy but he is also just another arm chair general doing a lot of Monday morning quarterbacking at a late date.
I have not doubt that a lot of the same questions were being raised during the occupation of Germany after W.W.II. We know that even two years after the war ended there was still a lot problems and attacks on Allied troops. So the problems we are having in Iraq are no surprise to students of history.
Saddam had to be taken out if for no other reason than to show the rest of the world we mean business about Terrorism and Tyrants that help sponsor it.
Now why is it Clancy can't see that?????????
49 posted on 08/01/2004 12:47:31 PM PDT by Captain Peter Blood
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To: Rams82
DISAPPOINTED!


50 posted on 08/01/2004 12:50:15 PM PDT by montag813 ("A nation can survive fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within.")
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To: LS

It reminds of Stephen Ambrose's last book where apparently his staff put together alot of it and it contained alot of sloppy errors.


51 posted on 08/01/2004 12:52:43 PM PDT by KC_Conspirator (This space outsourced to India)
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To: Rams82
Tom Clancy's book wars are always, always ridiculously clean and neat. When it becomes clear that the Iraq war isn't a fairytale with a quick happy ending after a few months, of course Clancy will turn on it.
52 posted on 08/01/2004 8:36:13 PM PDT by xm177e2 (Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
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To: TexasGreg

"There he was, sitting on international TV, wearing a beige colored 1970s era Leisure Suit. YUCK!!!"

Actually this could be seen as flattering. The ways which fairly sudden wealth change people say much about their character.


53 posted on 04/11/2005 12:38:00 AM PDT by WoofDog123
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To: KC_Conspirator

"I also have a problem with the character of Jack Ryan. I nearly threw the book down when Clancy wrote that Ryan was so "smart" that he invested in a litte coffee company named Starbucks back in the early 80's. Thats cheap writing."

Clancy indulges in wishful thinking autobiography to a degree that harms his work. 'the bear and the dragon' was full of monologues on his political views, and at that point I quit reading him. I agree, it IS cheap writing and he clearly has the sales figures to forgo normal editorial controls and put this stuff out there.


54 posted on 04/11/2005 12:42:55 AM PDT by WoofDog123
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