Battleground States Poll: (Kerry is ahead in 12/16 Zogby sauced battleground state polls)

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[Radix]

Sorry, but I have come to believe that Zogby is not nearly so objective, or principled as he would have us political freaks believe.

Zogby is a shrewd political activist with a lot of patience. He is becoming exposed as the stakes have become very high.

[Texas_Dawg]

Online polls?

Is this a joke?

[ambrose]

These are e-mail polls, not scientific telephone polls.

The Southern poll results contradict Zogby's own telephone poll of the South which was published last week in the Atlanta Journal Constitution.

[Dales]

Poll not of American adults, registered voters, or likely voters, but rather a poll of likely voters who signed up with Zogby Interactive at some point over the last few years (with a small subset telephoned to verify they were who they said they were).

Interesting, but not to be taken too seriously, unless someone takes on faith that those who visit Zogby's site are representative in attitude of the public in general (a dubious proposition). Even with scaling to representative demographics, it still is unlikely to be truly representative-- as the results which are wildly different than other polls suggests.

[KQQL]

lol

[Dales]

It will be interesting to see the trends in his interactive polls in the future, though. I won't use them to help determine where any state stands, but they should have some sort of use for movement.

[TheModerateMan]

I don't trust zogby polls, they were way off in 2002.

[ambrose]

I take it you're not going to rely on them in your regular updates...

[Dales]

I think that is a safe assumption. :-) I'll note them in my blog though.

[ambrose]

Zogby's numbers are contradictory... but that doesn't seem to keep him for getting more work. One day he publishes a national poll - with its internals showing Bush ahead in the South by only 5 points. A few days later he publishes another poll of just the South alone, and it has Bush up by 17 points. No one asks Zogby how he can come up with such wildly contradictory numbers.

[Dales]

I like this. Scroll down until you see this:

If anybody wants to help out the marijuana policy project by volunteering to be a poll victim for zogby you can sign up at:

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below is the copy of the email I got from MPP:

Subject: MPP to partner with Zogby International Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 15:50:48 +0000 From: Marijuana Policy Project To: mppupdates@igc.topica.com

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-- end --

[Straight Vermonter]

Zogby was kicked around badly on FR before the 2000 election but he was closer than anyone else to picking it right.

[Dales]

He markets well.

And if you poll both ways, you are going to always be able to point to your right answers ;-)

[Radix]

I'll note them in my blog though.

Please add this FReeper to your Blog link ping thing, if you have one.

I enjoy reading your stuff!

Thank You!

[AmishDude]

Welcome to FreeRepublic. You don't happen to make boxes do you?

[Dales]

I don't ping when I update the blog- I do that too often :-)

You can just visit whenever right here.