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To: narses
It's the Conservative's and Christian's fault we're in this mess. Why you may fume?
For too many years they have sat out elections because a candidate didn't have the exact same point of view or were one issue voters or supported some "principled" third party candidate. Democrats ALWAYS VOTE, whether or not they make it to polls, sometimes even when death might prevent them from participating in all other activities.
Here is the punishment for each act of hubris:
Bush 1, not closely aligned enough to "Moral Majority" + no new taxes pledge broken. The we're going to show him attitude gave us 8 years of fornication, tax increases a collapse in the moral imperative, gutting of national defense, and a decrease in national security. Oh, yeah, you also had 2 pro-abortion judges added to the Supreme Court not to mention other courts in the national system.
2. Tom McClintock - California Recall. The opportunity to show almost a 65% mandate against the status quo in California. It would have sent a powerful message and changed the course of politics. The threat of being voted out would have meant something. It now does not.
3. Conservative Democrats basically 40% of the rank and file union vote, African-American church-goers and American Catholics have surrendered their power in the party to queers, greens, feminists, and atheists.
So, not being a Leftist, I really don't care about diagnosing their problems, I care about what I can do to improve.
Take responsibility for what you have contributed to create this state of affairs and change it. If you can't do it for your country, do it for your children. Iif you can't do it for your children, do it for your neighbor. If you can't do it for your neighbor, then do it for yourself.
43 posted on 05/24/2004 5:49:53 AM PDT by olde north church (Do you want a president that eats bar-be-cue or a president that eats watercress?)
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To: olde north church
It's the Conservative's and Christian's fault we're in this mess. Why you may fume? For too many years they have sat out elections because a candidate didn't have the exact same point of view or were one issue voters or supported some "principled" third party candidate.

Shhhhhh. You're talking common sense again. :)

48 posted on 05/24/2004 6:53:08 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (I feel more and more like a revolted Charlton Heston, witnessing ape society for the very first time)
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To: olde north church

I disagree. The problem is not with those who would not compromise. The problem is with those who would. If everyone voted and voted their conscience, perhaps everything would be different. But those who vote vote strategy and they end up winning what they deserve -- someone who will strategize and sell them out in order to "win" more power.


66 posted on 05/24/2004 8:38:13 AM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Legislatures are so outdated. If you want real political victory, take your issue to court.)
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To: olde north church
Bush 1, not closely aligned enough to "Moral Majority" + no new taxes pledge broken. The we're going to show him attitude gave us 8 years of fornication, tax increases a collapse in the moral imperative, gutting of national defense, and a decrease in national security. Oh, yeah, you also had 2 pro-abortion judges added to the Supreme Court not to mention other courts in the national system.

Oh, that's the fault of Christians. Right. Bush 1 has NO ONE to blame for losing except himself. Read my lips.

234 posted on 05/27/2004 11:42:38 AM PDT by TradicalRC (In Heaven there is no beer, that's why we drink it here.)
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To: olde north church

You nailed it !!


242 posted on 05/27/2004 6:06:04 PM PDT by Thinkin
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