Posted on 05/23/2004 2:38:47 PM PDT by txradioguy
She's either paving the road there or to a certain demotion.
PC will be the death of "US" if we are not careful.
"I don't know, I know of a LOT of libs who do all of those things... it sounds like a spot-on description of clinton or kerry... I think it is wrong to say that women can't handle stress like men, based upon one terrible officer."
I think the author was pointing out that every woman there copped out, saying, "It wasn't my fault." I believe he was pointing out that the women weren't personally taking responsibility for their actions.
Now, there are always exceptions to the rule and I did state that. But in this case, the author is right on.
Of course, I'm a sexist male pig married for the last eight and half years, serving with many female soldiers, including Desert Storm. But I'm probably just mouthing off.
Sorry if I offended you.
I strongly suspect that Janis Karpinski not only can take it like a man, but give it like a man as well...if you know what I mean, and I think you do.
No offense taken, and i surely do understand your point.
Since you two know me, maybe you can exhonerate me or put the final nail in my sexist, women discriminating coffin. :)
Everyone who was hired or promoted - or in the case of the military, retained when others were released - during the clinton administration is suspect. Everyone. Including most especially, of course, the junior Senator from NY.The clinton white house committed thousands of crimes - Filegate alone was 2000 counts of a felony - and no one in the white house is exempt from suspicion that they hired Craig Livingstone. Consider the implications in, Heaven forfend, Senate hearings into nominations to staff a Kerry Administration.
But even in the "I'm a uniter, not a divider" Administration we see only the minimum housecleaning. We see Gorelick's Wall retained until the Patriot Act, we see a Democrat Secretary of Transportation - and we see someone who was promoted to her level of incompetence retained in charge of the prison system in Iraq.
...When confronted by the Iraqi public outcry – for Anayfas was only one of several war criminals whose paperwork was lost and she released – Karpinski proceeded to evade responsibility and fabricated an entire string of deceptive excuses. Just like she is doing now.
Very, very suspicious to me. Has anyone investigated her finances? I'm a natural cynic, so thoughts of bribery immediately came to mind.
I apologize if I'm off base on this, but the article suggests that she's either incompetent or downright corrupt. If these allegations are true, she should be relieved of command immediately.
Yeah, she was willing to make $100,000 a year as a general, but now she's a poor victimized female who was never in charge of anything.
Her turn is coming. They're just working their way up the chain of command. Karpinski has already been relieved of her command, and is one of seven officers who have received career-ending reprimands. I have no doubt that some of these people also have courts-martials in their futures.
Jack Wheeler hit the BULLSEYE on this one!
The trouble is that PC has the same effect on women in the military as it has on blacks in college - it assures that they will be rapidly promoted to their level of incompetence. Affirmative action assures that blacks can get into the most selective colleges at the same rate as whites, even though blacks do not hit the books in the same proportion that whites do.Likewise not everyone can be a general, and it would be no disgrace to this woman personally if she had not been promoted to that grade - but some woman was bound to be promoted to that grade whether there happened to be a qualified woman available or not. THAT is the problem.
"I think it is wrong to say that women can't handle stress like men, based upon one terrible officer."
That may be true. But the problem is...IMHO...by her acting like this...BG Karpinski is giving the impression...justified or not...that women officers can't hack it in the man's world. I've known and worked with male officers who act just as bad or worse.
Someone needs to call her in...lock her heels and tell her to close her mouth before she further tarnishes the officer corps...the general officer corps...and women officers in general with her weasl like tactics.
I don't know of she was taking anything under the table. It sounds like a simple...yet snoballing case of CYA on her part.
Worried more about her next OER she chose to obfusciate and allow incompetence and mismanagement by people below her to spread into the crap we see on TV about Abu Ghraib every minute.
Soldiers, while for the most part disciplined in their actions are human. If the bad apples that caused Abu Ghraib...saw that the brass were looking the other way...that was interpreted as a green light to continue their treatment of the prisoners.
The one area of institutional incompetency is the state department. That department is as decayed as the public school system.
There are far too many left over socialists in the system which are more in line with french diplomacy based on constraints of "treaty law" rather than the interests of the USA.
Such are the wages of symbolism over substance rather than merit.
"Someone needs to call her in...lock her heels and tell her to close her mouth before she further tarnishes the officer corps..."
Here's the problem with that. We're dealing with the Clintonization of the military. The main reason I exited stage left. Now, you've got superiors that are unwilling to do it because of her gender. It's the stigma placed on the disciplinarian that causes this.
All it takes is for her to say, "I was told to shutup by a bunch of men." And the press will eat it up like bowl of candy on Halloween. They'll parade her as a women's rights activist hero, all the while scolding the "evil man" for disciplining her when she needed it.
Let's take a look at Susan Smith. I believe one of the things that came out was that the husband was at fault. When the whole time, he was working to put food on the table. Not to say that he wasn't somewhat negligent, but he couldn't afford to babysit her when they had to eat, pay bills, etc...
This is the same kind of thing as to why no one has told her to shutup.
excellent commentary
The press beats on serious soldiers, such as Sanchez, and gives a pass to Karpinski. I do not think that the Eastern press has any idea about what the UCMJ is all about.
Right on!!!!!!!!
I know it is an old cliche expression - but that was my first reaction.
Yep you're a male sexist pig - and this woman salutes you.
The feminazis INSIST women be equal in the military but absolutely refuse to support the idea of 18 year old women registering with Selective Service.
As a woman I'm all for being paid the same amount as a man who has the same education and experience as I do - in a job I am capable of doing. There are jobs I don't think (most) women should be doing.
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