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To: Dane
"And if this was 1943, you snook would be saying, "Why" hasn't hilter been defeated yet. "Why" are the japanese still fighting. "

Grow up. Your comments are sophomoric. This is the problem.

Let's put it this way. The General who said more troops would be required was canned. The budget man who said it would cost 200 billion was canned. Those who told the President we would be greeted with flowers and the oil wells would gush cash to pay for the war are still around. Why?

17 posted on 05/22/2004 6:00:34 PM PDT by ex-snook (They had their chance. Dump all incumbents who won't bring back outsourced America.)
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To: ex-snook
Grow up. Your comments are sophomoric. This is the problem.

No the problem, IMO, is ankle biters like you, who try to micromanage the war on terror from your armchair.

18 posted on 05/22/2004 6:02:26 PM PDT by Dane
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To: ex-snook

They had their chance. Dump all incumbents who won't bring back outsourced America.)


Please explain how the incumbents are going to do just that???


80 posted on 05/22/2004 10:39:45 PM PDT by danamco
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To: ex-snook; Dane
Just by being in Iraq in fortifications and along the MSRs we are winning the WOT. The big effect of being in Iraq is to force the Arabs, in particular the cultural and religious extremists to come to terms with the existence of the West.

You must understand their values and beliefs are based upon theocratic totalitarianism which does not permit dissention or the presence of others who live freely from their will.

Simply by being here we are forcing their religious and cultural ideology to confront reality and modernize or lose control of their followers. It is a pragmatic equation: attack Coalition forces and die or accept the existence of other peoples and religions. The hard-line mullahs, war lords, Ba'athists and tribal leaders do not like our presence because it weakens the control they have over people in their areas. They realize if people have a choice many will bolt from 6th century religious and political serfdom.

Democracy may be a long way off but freedom is good enough for now.

Consider an alternative: the West pulls out of Iraq (there's >20 nations here) then Pakistan gives nuclear weapons to Islamic terrorists. Then you lose the civilization you're accostomed to. They have yet to accept the existence of the West, its freedoms and liberties. They can attack us over here, or they can attack us back there. Which would you prefer?

81 posted on 05/22/2004 11:21:15 PM PDT by Justa (Politically Correct is morally wrong.)
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To: ex-snook

see my post to your previous post of your ridiculous comments...you haven't got the common sense that God gave a rock


85 posted on 05/23/2004 12:59:53 AM PDT by jnarcus
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